1 00:00:03,649 --> 00:00:01,850 how are you doing everybody welcome back 2 00:00:05,749 --> 00:00:03,659 it's going to be a great day how you 3 00:00:07,970 --> 00:00:05,759 feeling today Jay I'm feeling fantastic 4 00:00:09,589 --> 00:00:07,980 we got a great guest on today we do have 5 00:00:10,910 --> 00:00:09,599 a great guest on today uh you know he's 6 00:00:12,530 --> 00:00:10,920 a little bit everything he's a fellow 7 00:00:15,530 --> 00:00:12,540 podcaster he's a private investigator 8 00:00:17,330 --> 00:00:15,540 former mufon field uh investigator uh 9 00:00:19,849 --> 00:00:17,340 he's the president of the experiencers 10 00:00:22,310 --> 00:00:19,859 support Association interesting idea 11 00:00:25,130 --> 00:00:22,320 this is a group that helps people deal 12 00:00:27,109 --> 00:00:25,140 with potential PTSD from unexplained 13 00:00:28,370 --> 00:00:27,119 phenomena I mean uh there's not a whole 14 00:00:30,589 --> 00:00:28,380 lot of resources where people can 15 00:00:32,810 --> 00:00:30,599 discuss what happened at least without 16 00:00:35,030 --> 00:00:32,820 fearing of you know being judged or 17 00:00:36,530 --> 00:00:35,040 looking vulnerable or telling a close 18 00:00:38,510 --> 00:00:36,540 friend who's now maybe not going to look 19 00:00:40,670 --> 00:00:38,520 at you the same way anymore so very 20 00:00:41,810 --> 00:00:40,680 valuable resource we got into a lot of 21 00:00:44,869 --> 00:00:41,820 topics you know we discussed the 22 00:00:46,850 --> 00:00:44,879 Paranormal uh mysticism but from a nuts 23 00:00:49,310 --> 00:00:46,860 and bolts mindset if there is such a 24 00:00:51,650 --> 00:00:49,320 thing so I'm super excited to present 25 00:00:53,569 --> 00:00:51,660 our episode today Mr Ryan Stacy was a 26 00:00:56,630 --> 00:00:53,579 great guest and we'll be right back and 27 00:01:00,920 --> 00:00:56,640 let's get right into it let's do this 28 00:01:19,969 --> 00:01:14,280 [Music] 29 00:01:23,929 --> 00:01:21,830 welcome back everybody to another great 30 00:01:25,789 --> 00:01:23,939 episode UAP studies podcast I am Louis 31 00:01:27,770 --> 00:01:25,799 Borges joining me as always my good 32 00:01:30,170 --> 00:01:27,780 friend and illustrious co-host Mr Jason 33 00:01:31,850 --> 00:01:30,180 Gilman how are you I'm good brother I'm 34 00:01:32,990 --> 00:01:31,860 really excited about today's uh guest 35 00:01:34,910 --> 00:01:33,000 we've been looking forward to this 36 00:01:36,530 --> 00:01:34,920 interview for a while now yeah we have a 37 00:01:39,350 --> 00:01:36,540 fellow Canadian most of our guests are 38 00:01:40,969 --> 00:01:39,360 American or in Jacque Valley's case from 39 00:01:42,289 --> 00:01:40,979 France and you know Australia and all 40 00:01:44,149 --> 00:01:42,299 around the world so good to have some 41 00:01:48,230 --> 00:01:44,159 Hometown Blood on the show with us today 42 00:01:50,510 --> 00:01:48,240 and uh a proper mind on the subject we 43 00:01:52,910 --> 00:01:50,520 have a private investigator a fellow 44 00:01:54,530 --> 00:01:52,920 podcaster a citizen journalist uh 45 00:01:56,109 --> 00:01:54,540 president of Tessa which is the 46 00:01:58,370 --> 00:01:56,119 experiencer support Association 47 00:02:00,469 --> 00:01:58,380 providing resources and information on 48 00:02:03,410 --> 00:02:00,479 people who are dealing with experiences 49 00:02:04,910 --> 00:02:03,420 paranormal extraterrestrial and also for 50 00:02:07,010 --> 00:02:04,920 people who are just interested in the 51 00:02:09,229 --> 00:02:07,020 field and what it might be about it's a 52 00:02:11,869 --> 00:02:09,239 very good resource as well so we want to 53 00:02:13,850 --> 00:02:11,879 extend a warm welcome to Mr Ryan Stacy 54 00:02:16,369 --> 00:02:13,860 hello thank you for having me yeah 55 00:02:18,350 --> 00:02:16,379 thanks for being here so um explain a 56 00:02:19,790 --> 00:02:18,360 little bit about sort of your uh your 57 00:02:22,190 --> 00:02:19,800 life prior to what you're doing now what 58 00:02:24,050 --> 00:02:22,200 got you interested in these topics and 59 00:02:25,430 --> 00:02:24,060 uh before the show we were chatting a 60 00:02:26,990 --> 00:02:25,440 bit and I heard you mention that you 61 00:02:28,550 --> 00:02:27,000 were able to create the job that you 62 00:02:30,650 --> 00:02:28,560 wanted for yourself which is something 63 00:02:32,270 --> 00:02:30,660 that a million and one self-help books 64 00:02:33,949 --> 00:02:32,280 tell you how to do so 65 00:02:35,869 --> 00:02:33,959 um yeah elaborate a little bit on what 66 00:02:37,250 --> 00:02:35,879 that Journey was like for you 67 00:02:38,809 --> 00:02:37,260 all right so well I've always been a 68 00:02:41,809 --> 00:02:38,819 Paranormal Investigator that's kind of 69 00:02:43,130 --> 00:02:41,819 where it started uh in terms of the 70 00:02:46,070 --> 00:02:43,140 hobby 71 00:02:48,710 --> 00:02:46,080 um I got into investigations around 2005 72 00:02:50,750 --> 00:02:48,720 uh professionally 73 00:02:52,550 --> 00:02:50,760 um and I always like had that paranormal 74 00:02:53,690 --> 00:02:52,560 interest you know while I was kind of 75 00:02:56,449 --> 00:02:53,700 building the business or what no I 76 00:02:58,190 --> 00:02:56,459 started my company in 2015 as a private 77 00:03:01,009 --> 00:02:58,200 investigating company uh it's also 78 00:03:02,930 --> 00:03:01,019 private security but along the ways I 79 00:03:04,610 --> 00:03:02,940 kind of I had different names and titles 80 00:03:06,350 --> 00:03:04,620 to call this like paranormal group that 81 00:03:07,430 --> 00:03:06,360 I had I used to do you know the stuff 82 00:03:09,770 --> 00:03:07,440 that you would 83 00:03:11,930 --> 00:03:09,780 see on TV because that was kind of the 84 00:03:13,009 --> 00:03:11,940 way we thought I thought it was supposed 85 00:03:15,949 --> 00:03:13,019 to be and that's kind of like what 86 00:03:18,589 --> 00:03:15,959 everybody else was doing and uh along 87 00:03:21,790 --> 00:03:18,599 the way I got uh caught up with a bug 88 00:03:25,009 --> 00:03:21,800 called mufon and I spent a 89 00:03:27,530 --> 00:03:25,019 good five no three to yeah three to five 90 00:03:29,690 --> 00:03:27,540 years I can't remember two thousand 91 00:03:30,890 --> 00:03:29,700 fifteen is when I got in I don't know I 92 00:03:34,610 --> 00:03:30,900 can't remember when I got out it's kind 93 00:03:37,190 --> 00:03:34,620 of like Service uh to the military 94 00:03:38,990 --> 00:03:37,200 um so I spent some time there moved up 95 00:03:40,850 --> 00:03:39,000 the ranks in the in the in the 96 00:03:42,350 --> 00:03:40,860 investigative sides will eventually I 97 00:03:45,410 --> 00:03:42,360 became the chief investigator for move 98 00:03:46,789 --> 00:03:45,420 on Canada and then I assisted mufon 99 00:03:48,830 --> 00:03:46,799 National being the field investigator 100 00:03:50,030 --> 00:03:48,840 trainer so I was able I was responsible 101 00:03:55,430 --> 00:03:50,040 for 102 00:03:57,470 --> 00:03:55,440 move on University and teach field 103 00:03:58,550 --> 00:03:57,480 investigators how to investigate you 104 00:04:00,830 --> 00:03:58,560 know things that we can't find 105 00:04:03,589 --> 00:04:00,840 unidentified buying officers objects now 106 00:04:05,690 --> 00:04:03,599 UAP so alongside running a private 107 00:04:08,270 --> 00:04:05,700 investigating company and uh in a 108 00:04:10,550 --> 00:04:08,280 security business so to get to where I 109 00:04:11,869 --> 00:04:10,560 am now was like a long hard work of you 110 00:04:12,890 --> 00:04:11,879 know moving things and selling the 111 00:04:14,929 --> 00:04:12,900 business and doing all these other 112 00:04:16,849 --> 00:04:14,939 things building a good team that's able 113 00:04:20,270 --> 00:04:16,859 to run the company to make me free where 114 00:04:23,210 --> 00:04:20,280 I am now so so as a CEO 115 00:04:25,850 --> 00:04:23,220 um I like I could be relaxing I should 116 00:04:27,950 --> 00:04:25,860 be relaxing but now I'm I'm doing this 117 00:04:30,290 --> 00:04:27,960 full-time because this is what 118 00:04:33,530 --> 00:04:30,300 I now want to do I feel like I have to 119 00:04:35,629 --> 00:04:33,540 do because of the time I invested 120 00:04:38,450 --> 00:04:35,639 um especially with mufon 121 00:04:40,550 --> 00:04:38,460 to the people because I you know as I 122 00:04:42,650 --> 00:04:40,560 evolve and and learn through the people 123 00:04:44,629 --> 00:04:42,660 there is something going on I do have 124 00:04:47,330 --> 00:04:44,639 these skills 125 00:04:49,610 --> 00:04:47,340 um that can be applied to the human 126 00:04:51,710 --> 00:04:49,620 being sensor that that bedside Manner 127 00:04:55,070 --> 00:04:51,720 and I just so happen to 128 00:04:56,570 --> 00:04:55,080 fall into it and now I've created a 129 00:04:58,189 --> 00:04:56,580 second business which is the experience 130 00:05:00,650 --> 00:04:58,199 your support Association which is 131 00:05:03,830 --> 00:05:00,660 actually a media company and which is 132 00:05:07,850 --> 00:05:03,840 responsible for assisting people like 133 00:05:09,469 --> 00:05:07,860 myself who struggle to get into 134 00:05:11,390 --> 00:05:09,479 um you know the Limelight I guess if you 135 00:05:13,370 --> 00:05:11,400 will on this subject 136 00:05:16,310 --> 00:05:13,380 um and now so we now have resources that 137 00:05:19,730 --> 00:05:16,320 kind of help create content as well uh 138 00:05:20,629 --> 00:05:19,740 but Focus around creating 139 00:05:23,029 --> 00:05:20,639 um 140 00:05:25,430 --> 00:05:23,039 support mechanisms for those who are 141 00:05:28,249 --> 00:05:25,440 affected by the phenomenon so while I'm 142 00:05:31,070 --> 00:05:28,259 also pushing disclosure here in Canada 143 00:05:32,930 --> 00:05:31,080 behind the scenes helping a few people 144 00:05:35,749 --> 00:05:32,940 as well I won't mention any names for 145 00:05:38,330 --> 00:05:35,759 now because uh The Works kind of uh 146 00:05:41,570 --> 00:05:38,340 developing but I am while I'm helping 147 00:05:43,390 --> 00:05:41,580 with that it helps me 148 00:05:45,950 --> 00:05:43,400 understand 149 00:05:48,770 --> 00:05:45,960 the human element so investigate all 150 00:05:52,670 --> 00:05:48,780 things so uh what which I call the ultra 151 00:05:54,890 --> 00:05:52,680 Spectrum it's a paranormal Cryptid UFOs 152 00:05:59,810 --> 00:05:54,900 and trying to connect it all together 153 00:06:02,029 --> 00:05:59,820 and essentially where I'm at now is 154 00:06:04,670 --> 00:06:02,039 um trying to prepare for what happens 155 00:06:06,650 --> 00:06:04,680 after disclosure so or after 156 00:06:08,689 --> 00:06:06,660 confirmation if you say disabiliter in 157 00:06:11,270 --> 00:06:08,699 my opinion has already happened uh we're 158 00:06:14,270 --> 00:06:11,280 just waiting for that confession or that 159 00:06:16,310 --> 00:06:14,280 that validation that what we believe is 160 00:06:17,689 --> 00:06:16,320 going on has happened so now I'm 161 00:06:19,730 --> 00:06:17,699 focusing on 162 00:06:20,990 --> 00:06:19,740 what happens next because a lot of 163 00:06:24,110 --> 00:06:21,000 people are pushing to get that 164 00:06:25,189 --> 00:06:24,120 confirmation but not realizing right I 165 00:06:27,950 --> 00:06:25,199 hope they 166 00:06:30,290 --> 00:06:27,960 realize but I don't see the focus too 167 00:06:32,749 --> 00:06:30,300 much focus on how the human population 168 00:06:34,309 --> 00:06:32,759 is going to be affected by that so so 169 00:06:37,309 --> 00:06:34,319 those we have those Skeptics we have 170 00:06:38,870 --> 00:06:37,319 those who don't believe we have those 171 00:06:40,430 --> 00:06:38,880 um who are trying to debunk and trying 172 00:06:42,050 --> 00:06:40,440 to do all these things to get the truth 173 00:06:43,370 --> 00:06:42,060 which is balance everything and being in 174 00:06:44,749 --> 00:06:43,380 the middle as an investigator's heart 175 00:06:47,029 --> 00:06:44,759 because I got to be I got to balance 176 00:06:49,189 --> 00:06:47,039 this and in order to balance it I always 177 00:06:51,230 --> 00:06:49,199 I always end up with with human human 178 00:06:54,550 --> 00:06:51,240 being the source 179 00:06:57,550 --> 00:06:54,560 um so the challenges that I have is when 180 00:07:02,809 --> 00:06:57,560 you get into the abduction phenomenon 181 00:07:05,029 --> 00:07:02,819 where you have sexual abuse you have uh 182 00:07:08,870 --> 00:07:05,039 injuries yeah so assault yeah like all 183 00:07:10,909 --> 00:07:08,880 these criminal offenses uh that you know 184 00:07:13,790 --> 00:07:10,919 that occur 185 00:07:16,790 --> 00:07:13,800 when we find out that UFOs or uaps exist 186 00:07:19,550 --> 00:07:16,800 there's that in inclination or that 187 00:07:22,129 --> 00:07:19,560 um implied thought that those exist as 188 00:07:24,290 --> 00:07:22,139 well and so we need to there has to be 189 00:07:27,890 --> 00:07:24,300 something to prepare the people 190 00:07:29,930 --> 00:07:27,900 um now I do put a lot of I don't put a I 191 00:07:33,110 --> 00:07:29,940 put some trust in the government we'll 192 00:07:35,689 --> 00:07:33,120 just say that uh to to balance it to to 193 00:07:37,610 --> 00:07:35,699 to have that that that belief to think 194 00:07:40,309 --> 00:07:37,620 that even though they haven't told us 195 00:07:42,890 --> 00:07:40,319 everything they told us enough and when 196 00:07:45,409 --> 00:07:42,900 we need to we need to know so there may 197 00:07:47,210 --> 00:07:45,419 be resources that could come out 198 00:07:48,830 --> 00:07:47,220 available with that package if you 199 00:07:50,089 --> 00:07:48,840 decide to say hey these things exist 200 00:07:52,249 --> 00:07:50,099 because if you say yes to one you're 201 00:07:53,510 --> 00:07:52,259 going to say yes to everything 202 00:07:56,809 --> 00:07:53,520 um so there's a lot that's going to go 203 00:07:58,969 --> 00:07:56,819 into it at the same time if they don't 204 00:08:01,309 --> 00:07:58,979 say anything at all 205 00:08:02,390 --> 00:08:01,319 we kind of still have to focus on on the 206 00:08:03,589 --> 00:08:02,400 people because there is something 207 00:08:05,330 --> 00:08:03,599 happening that's what I get into 208 00:08:06,469 --> 00:08:05,340 Consciousness and all that other shot 209 00:08:08,629 --> 00:08:06,479 too 210 00:08:10,790 --> 00:08:08,639 so that's that's where I was that's 211 00:08:13,550 --> 00:08:10,800 where I am 212 00:08:15,170 --> 00:08:13,560 a question you mentioned the disclosure 213 00:08:16,790 --> 00:08:15,180 versus confirmation we were on Dave 214 00:08:18,650 --> 00:08:16,800 Scott spaced out radio the other night 215 00:08:20,270 --> 00:08:18,660 and that's one of the questions he asked 216 00:08:21,350 --> 00:08:20,280 us and he says you know what's the 217 00:08:23,529 --> 00:08:21,360 difference and what are your thoughts 218 00:08:25,730 --> 00:08:23,539 and I said well you know from my opinion 219 00:08:27,650 --> 00:08:25,740 disclosure is important for those people 220 00:08:29,450 --> 00:08:27,660 who need the validation of their career 221 00:08:31,610 --> 00:08:29,460 like George Knapp you know you spend 35 222 00:08:33,350 --> 00:08:31,620 years doing this you want that to 223 00:08:35,630 --> 00:08:33,360 officially come out just to be able to 224 00:08:38,209 --> 00:08:35,640 tell all your naysayers this is real I 225 00:08:41,389 --> 00:08:38,219 Told You So and validation is more I 226 00:08:42,949 --> 00:08:41,399 think for people who were skeptic and 227 00:08:44,750 --> 00:08:42,959 didn't really have any good proof and 228 00:08:46,370 --> 00:08:44,760 that's a big problem with ufology is the 229 00:08:49,370 --> 00:08:46,380 lack of physical evidence that we can 230 00:08:50,630 --> 00:08:49,380 all agree on you know and so that's a 231 00:08:53,090 --> 00:08:50,640 very important thing to acknowledge 232 00:08:54,170 --> 00:08:53,100 because where where I'm at in terms of 233 00:08:56,870 --> 00:08:54,180 this 234 00:08:59,470 --> 00:08:56,880 um movement well at least where I feel I 235 00:09:02,329 --> 00:08:59,480 feel like I'm I'm I'm 236 00:09:03,710 --> 00:09:02,339 inadvertently competing with what was 237 00:09:06,530 --> 00:09:03,720 already there because I have a different 238 00:09:08,269 --> 00:09:06,540 view when I'm and I'm working on a new 239 00:09:11,090 --> 00:09:08,279 system for a future I have a future 240 00:09:12,889 --> 00:09:11,100 Vision whether we have uh disclosure or 241 00:09:15,730 --> 00:09:12,899 not I'm I'm moving past that and 242 00:09:18,530 --> 00:09:15,740 whatever happens I'll apply that but I I 243 00:09:20,570 --> 00:09:18,540 my assessment on on the steps that have 244 00:09:22,310 --> 00:09:20,580 been taken place does not appear to me 245 00:09:23,630 --> 00:09:22,320 as if disclosure is going to happen or 246 00:09:24,949 --> 00:09:23,640 confirmation is going to happen it just 247 00:09:27,110 --> 00:09:24,959 kind of appears as if they're going to 248 00:09:29,150 --> 00:09:27,120 contain it and normalize it so we stop 249 00:09:30,470 --> 00:09:29,160 worrying about it and then we kind of 250 00:09:32,750 --> 00:09:30,480 move on 251 00:09:34,850 --> 00:09:32,760 um the fear with that is when you have 252 00:09:35,870 --> 00:09:34,860 uh like here in Canada we got Grant 253 00:09:39,949 --> 00:09:35,880 Cameron 254 00:09:42,050 --> 00:09:39,959 um and Chris rutowski those who have 255 00:09:44,090 --> 00:09:42,060 been trying to get answers for for a 256 00:09:46,970 --> 00:09:44,100 very very long time longer than I have 257 00:09:49,130 --> 00:09:46,980 of course and if we don't if we don't 258 00:09:52,009 --> 00:09:49,140 get an answer then then their life's 259 00:09:53,389 --> 00:09:52,019 work was for nothing in in terms not for 260 00:09:55,250 --> 00:09:53,399 nothing but I mean that they need they 261 00:09:56,870 --> 00:09:55,260 don't get that validation so a lot of 262 00:10:00,470 --> 00:09:56,880 these people are fighting now because 263 00:10:02,870 --> 00:10:00,480 it's so close in their lifetime yeah 264 00:10:04,370 --> 00:10:02,880 but I need to put on the pi hat the risk 265 00:10:06,590 --> 00:10:04,380 analysis had look at things and 266 00:10:08,030 --> 00:10:06,600 understand how things were moving how 267 00:10:10,730 --> 00:10:08,040 the balance of probabilities I don't 268 00:10:12,350 --> 00:10:10,740 think we're going to get that but that 269 00:10:14,509 --> 00:10:12,360 might be a generational thinking as well 270 00:10:16,269 --> 00:10:14,519 we're getting close to all yeah what do 271 00:10:19,430 --> 00:10:16,279 you think about the Canadian 272 00:10:21,889 --> 00:10:19,440 media's angle on all this like we 273 00:10:24,230 --> 00:10:21,899 haven't really seen anything really 274 00:10:25,790 --> 00:10:24,240 solid like you know I know CNN and stuff 275 00:10:28,370 --> 00:10:25,800 like that in the states are covering the 276 00:10:30,290 --> 00:10:28,380 subject but it seems like Canada we were 277 00:10:31,130 --> 00:10:30,300 always behind the times and we don't 278 00:10:35,269 --> 00:10:31,140 want to 279 00:10:37,610 --> 00:10:35,279 you think about the media right now does 280 00:10:39,889 --> 00:10:37,620 it need to cover the subject a lot more 281 00:10:43,130 --> 00:10:39,899 yeah it is 282 00:10:44,630 --> 00:10:43,140 doesn't need to well it needs it's uh it 283 00:10:45,949 --> 00:10:44,640 depends on the opinion of it like we're 284 00:10:48,769 --> 00:10:45,959 liberal right now but there's 285 00:10:51,730 --> 00:10:48,779 conservatives right now that's uh that's 286 00:10:54,170 --> 00:10:51,740 pushing pushing the narrative so 287 00:10:56,090 --> 00:10:54,180 my assessment on that essentially is 288 00:10:57,470 --> 00:10:56,100 like you know we don't I don't know 289 00:10:59,870 --> 00:10:57,480 enough about it whether or not they're 290 00:11:01,910 --> 00:10:59,880 just pushing it so they can help their 291 00:11:02,990 --> 00:11:01,920 election to get information in if they 292 00:11:04,610 --> 00:11:03,000 can you know 293 00:11:08,449 --> 00:11:04,620 through all these other things but like 294 00:11:11,329 --> 00:11:08,459 Canada's always been uh piggybacking off 295 00:11:12,470 --> 00:11:11,339 of news all the news gets piggybacked uh 296 00:11:13,730 --> 00:11:12,480 when you go to high school and things 297 00:11:15,470 --> 00:11:13,740 like that too you learn about American 298 00:11:19,069 --> 00:11:15,480 history before you learn about Canadian 299 00:11:20,630 --> 00:11:19,079 history you know so so so so does it 300 00:11:22,370 --> 00:11:20,640 need to happen in terms of a cultural 301 00:11:24,350 --> 00:11:22,380 sense sure why not 302 00:11:26,150 --> 00:11:24,360 um does it have to happen you know I 303 00:11:27,829 --> 00:11:26,160 like Canadian Canada's kind of 304 00:11:29,630 --> 00:11:27,839 perspective in that sense because it's 305 00:11:31,910 --> 00:11:29,640 it's it's nothing it's not important 306 00:11:33,949 --> 00:11:31,920 it's like it's a machine we have it you 307 00:11:37,310 --> 00:11:33,959 know kind of sense like don't worry 308 00:11:39,829 --> 00:11:37,320 about it we're safe uh let's move on 309 00:11:42,470 --> 00:11:39,839 um the thing is though is there are 310 00:11:45,470 --> 00:11:42,480 people pressing for answers so they're 311 00:11:48,470 --> 00:11:45,480 show you familiar with MP Larry McGuire 312 00:11:50,449 --> 00:11:48,480 yeah so he uh so I've been following 313 00:11:51,829 --> 00:11:50,459 that a lot and a couple people I'm 314 00:11:55,550 --> 00:11:51,839 working with behind the scenes are all 315 00:11:58,610 --> 00:11:55,560 helping uh all that stuff uh on on Ravel 316 00:12:00,350 --> 00:11:58,620 um recently he's posed questions to uh 317 00:12:03,470 --> 00:12:00,360 the House of Commons to uh to get 318 00:12:06,050 --> 00:12:03,480 answered so that 45-day window 319 00:12:07,610 --> 00:12:06,060 um that uh you know that originally 320 00:12:09,110 --> 00:12:07,620 started in America is now starting with 321 00:12:11,329 --> 00:12:09,120 Canada so we're hoping to get some 322 00:12:12,769 --> 00:12:11,339 answers from the House of Commons in 323 00:12:16,009 --> 00:12:12,779 respect to that through Larry McGuire 324 00:12:18,350 --> 00:12:16,019 now previous to that journalist by the 325 00:12:23,750 --> 00:12:18,360 name of Daniel Otis had made a 326 00:12:27,470 --> 00:12:23,760 um a report that the new Minister uh for 327 00:12:29,990 --> 00:12:27,480 transport Omar I can't say his last name 328 00:12:33,710 --> 00:12:30,000 um has been briefed and prepped on to 329 00:12:36,110 --> 00:12:33,720 what to say uh if pressed on the topic 330 00:12:37,730 --> 00:12:36,120 of UFOs or uaps in Canada so there's a 331 00:12:39,410 --> 00:12:37,740 document I have the queued up too if you 332 00:12:41,509 --> 00:12:39,420 need to see it but 333 00:12:43,790 --> 00:12:41,519 um so so what's interesting about that 334 00:12:46,550 --> 00:12:43,800 is he's kind of told old in a sense what 335 00:12:49,370 --> 00:12:46,560 to say if pressed by the media so 336 00:12:51,710 --> 00:12:49,380 he's essentially told for my regulation 337 00:12:53,389 --> 00:12:51,720 recollection is just to refer to the 338 00:12:55,009 --> 00:12:53,399 caterer reports refer to Transport 339 00:12:57,350 --> 00:12:55,019 Canada refer to all the things that we 340 00:13:00,769 --> 00:12:57,360 already know here in the subculture 341 00:13:04,129 --> 00:13:00,779 and kind of deflected my 342 00:13:07,129 --> 00:13:04,139 current thought with the move with 343 00:13:09,290 --> 00:13:07,139 Maguire is now that we know that there's 344 00:13:11,710 --> 00:13:09,300 a prepped response for Transport Canada 345 00:13:14,690 --> 00:13:11,720 even though he's asking a higher body 346 00:13:15,889 --> 00:13:14,700 you know are they going to give a 347 00:13:17,990 --> 00:13:15,899 different answer are they going to fall 348 00:13:19,610 --> 00:13:18,000 in suit because a this is just something 349 00:13:22,610 --> 00:13:19,620 that was heard about that freedom 350 00:13:24,170 --> 00:13:22,620 information request was gathered 351 00:13:27,650 --> 00:13:24,180 um you know so there's a lot of things 352 00:13:31,750 --> 00:13:27,660 going on so it's in the news it's it's 353 00:13:37,790 --> 00:13:31,760 not mainstream but it's getting 354 00:13:41,210 --> 00:13:37,800 and I think it's important if 355 00:13:44,150 --> 00:13:41,220 what's going on in America is you know 356 00:13:45,710 --> 00:13:44,160 so you know legitimate because it 357 00:13:47,810 --> 00:13:45,720 affects us with borders and things like 358 00:13:51,170 --> 00:13:47,820 that too we do know 359 00:13:54,170 --> 00:13:51,180 um that you know with service reports uh 360 00:13:55,850 --> 00:13:54,180 Canada does have to pass information off 361 00:13:57,050 --> 00:13:55,860 to the United States and Iran and all 362 00:13:58,490 --> 00:13:57,060 that other stuff too so there's a 363 00:14:00,230 --> 00:13:58,500 transfer of information we don't have 364 00:14:02,629 --> 00:14:00,240 control of the information we start the 365 00:14:04,250 --> 00:14:02,639 investigations we hand it off so there's 366 00:14:06,050 --> 00:14:04,260 a lot of push over on the American side 367 00:14:08,449 --> 00:14:06,060 to get that confirmation because that'll 368 00:14:12,590 --> 00:14:08,459 kind of help but when Canada looks at 369 00:14:14,210 --> 00:14:12,600 an American stuff they can the answers 370 00:14:16,310 --> 00:14:14,220 that are coming back are more so like 371 00:14:19,490 --> 00:14:16,320 it's we only respond to things that are 372 00:14:20,930 --> 00:14:19,500 incredible which kind of implies that 373 00:14:24,470 --> 00:14:20,940 these are incredible things or these 374 00:14:26,509 --> 00:14:24,480 aren't things of threats so if I were to 375 00:14:29,269 --> 00:14:26,519 step outside of all those disclosure 376 00:14:31,790 --> 00:14:29,279 stuff and and and listen to or look at 377 00:14:34,790 --> 00:14:31,800 the facts of what's being said 378 00:14:38,449 --> 00:14:34,800 I'm seeing that these objects are not 379 00:14:40,910 --> 00:14:38,459 threatening so when you get the Navy in 380 00:14:43,069 --> 00:14:40,920 America recently through John Greenwald 381 00:14:45,110 --> 00:14:43,079 we recently got them to say that yeah 382 00:14:48,230 --> 00:14:45,120 these UFO files exist but we're not 383 00:14:50,750 --> 00:14:48,240 releasing them because uh they release 384 00:14:52,310 --> 00:14:50,760 information about our technologies that 385 00:14:54,050 --> 00:14:52,320 could damage National Security now 386 00:14:56,750 --> 00:14:54,060 that's a valid response but in the same 387 00:14:59,269 --> 00:14:56,760 time they say UFOs exist unidentified 388 00:15:01,850 --> 00:14:59,279 flying objects but they're unidentified 389 00:15:03,230 --> 00:15:01,860 to them or unidentified to us and that's 390 00:15:05,389 --> 00:15:03,240 perspective and that doesn't necessarily 391 00:15:07,069 --> 00:15:05,399 mean aliens but what I'm being told by 392 00:15:08,750 --> 00:15:07,079 that is that they know what it is they 393 00:15:10,610 --> 00:15:08,760 have it they're aware of it and they're 394 00:15:14,150 --> 00:15:10,620 not giving the evidence because they're 395 00:15:15,949 --> 00:15:14,160 worried about what their machines might 396 00:15:18,350 --> 00:15:15,959 uh how that would affect National 397 00:15:20,870 --> 00:15:18,360 Security they're not worried about the 398 00:15:22,730 --> 00:15:20,880 crafts that are seen in these videos 399 00:15:24,189 --> 00:15:22,740 they're more worried about ourselves so 400 00:15:26,569 --> 00:15:24,199 if they're so so if it's 401 00:15:28,910 --> 00:15:26,579 extraterrestrial or if it's human they 402 00:15:30,769 --> 00:15:28,920 know what it is and it's non-threatening 403 00:15:32,150 --> 00:15:30,779 and and 404 00:15:34,990 --> 00:15:32,160 um or at least appears to be and I'm 405 00:15:38,150 --> 00:15:35,000 okay with that the issue that I have 406 00:15:40,430 --> 00:15:38,160 with which drives me is this whole I'm 407 00:15:43,430 --> 00:15:40,440 being abducted I'm being uh you know 408 00:15:45,050 --> 00:15:43,440 assaulted I'm being kidnapped uh you 409 00:15:46,970 --> 00:15:45,060 know brainwashed all these all these 410 00:15:49,610 --> 00:15:46,980 nightmares and drama Associated 411 00:15:52,490 --> 00:15:49,620 phenomenon that might be linked to these 412 00:15:54,230 --> 00:15:52,500 crafts might be you know they could be 413 00:15:55,730 --> 00:15:54,240 something totally different reverse 414 00:15:57,470 --> 00:15:55,740 engineer and all that other stuff we can 415 00:15:58,970 --> 00:15:57,480 figure that out once we get confirmation 416 00:16:01,670 --> 00:15:58,980 of something 417 00:16:03,170 --> 00:16:01,680 but I have a Declassified document on on 418 00:16:05,689 --> 00:16:03,180 my website 419 00:16:08,449 --> 00:16:05,699 um in the timeline there in 1952 it's in 420 00:16:10,970 --> 00:16:08,459 our Royal Canadian Armed Air Force and 421 00:16:12,530 --> 00:16:10,980 RCMP interrogation of a German engineer 422 00:16:15,230 --> 00:16:12,540 who claims it's just German technology 423 00:16:16,550 --> 00:16:15,240 and that's the end Case Closed 424 00:16:18,829 --> 00:16:16,560 um but 425 00:16:22,790 --> 00:16:18,839 you know that's just one document you 426 00:16:26,569 --> 00:16:22,800 know so I'm I don't see this this UAP 427 00:16:30,530 --> 00:16:26,579 UFO phenomenon any different than 428 00:16:32,449 --> 00:16:30,540 um you know the new new Air Force and I 429 00:16:35,269 --> 00:16:32,459 I know in the states Ryan they're trying 430 00:16:37,009 --> 00:16:35,279 to really push the threat narrative you 431 00:16:38,329 --> 00:16:37,019 know like that's a huge thing for them 432 00:16:39,710 --> 00:16:38,339 you know it's a threat and they're 433 00:16:42,050 --> 00:16:39,720 approaching all the other countries like 434 00:16:44,810 --> 00:16:42,060 this is a Potential Threat 435 00:16:46,249 --> 00:16:44,820 um Canada's angle on this seems to be a 436 00:16:48,050 --> 00:16:46,259 little bit more like well let's focus on 437 00:16:49,850 --> 00:16:48,060 the science of it like let's focus where 438 00:16:52,249 --> 00:16:49,860 they come from what's their technology 439 00:16:54,590 --> 00:16:52,259 it seems a little bit more sound to 440 00:16:55,389 --> 00:16:54,600 approach it that way and not scare the 441 00:16:58,129 --> 00:16:55,399 public 442 00:16:59,990 --> 00:16:58,139 but we have these two you know Polar 443 00:17:03,050 --> 00:17:00,000 Opposites we got Canada going hey let's 444 00:17:05,409 --> 00:17:03,060 explore this as a possible yay situation 445 00:17:09,230 --> 00:17:05,419 where you got the states 446 00:17:11,030 --> 00:17:09,240 has also been open like like 1995 they 447 00:17:13,850 --> 00:17:11,040 they transferred the documents from the 448 00:17:15,829 --> 00:17:13,860 uh NRC to The Archives of a library of 449 00:17:17,210 --> 00:17:15,839 yeah Canadian library of archives or 450 00:17:18,890 --> 00:17:17,220 whatever so like there's there's 451 00:17:20,689 --> 00:17:18,900 thousands and thousands of Declassified 452 00:17:22,250 --> 00:17:20,699 documents that no one's going through 453 00:17:23,569 --> 00:17:22,260 they're just perusing it and trying to 454 00:17:25,370 --> 00:17:23,579 find these things but like it's it's 455 00:17:27,470 --> 00:17:25,380 it's missing information right it's not 456 00:17:29,450 --> 00:17:27,480 it's not but they're open about it they 457 00:17:32,210 --> 00:17:29,460 have coins that have been minted about 458 00:17:34,430 --> 00:17:32,220 you know Falcon Lake shag Harbor you 459 00:17:37,310 --> 00:17:34,440 know so Canada accepts the possibility 460 00:17:40,789 --> 00:17:37,320 they're not like denying the existence 461 00:17:43,190 --> 00:17:40,799 they're not really pushing into it so I 462 00:17:45,409 --> 00:17:43,200 mean like we're okay with it but I kind 463 00:17:47,169 --> 00:17:45,419 of feel like that approach is because 464 00:17:49,669 --> 00:17:47,179 they know more 465 00:17:51,470 --> 00:17:49,679 then they can tell us but they can't 466 00:17:53,930 --> 00:17:51,480 tell us because it's the states that has 467 00:17:56,570 --> 00:17:53,940 has control of the information 468 00:17:58,190 --> 00:17:56,580 so so perhaps that kind of in your face 469 00:18:02,330 --> 00:17:58,200 here's your stuff here's uh here's 470 00:18:07,370 --> 00:18:05,570 um I mean if you look at the Avro uh 52 471 00:18:09,770 --> 00:18:07,380 I think when that was made World War 472 00:18:11,570 --> 00:18:09,780 still two of them already made and then 473 00:18:13,130 --> 00:18:11,580 all of a sudden uh they gave the patent 474 00:18:15,590 --> 00:18:13,140 to the United States so the technology 475 00:18:17,870 --> 00:18:15,600 for a software shape 476 00:18:20,330 --> 00:18:17,880 um you know crap does exist it did exist 477 00:18:23,270 --> 00:18:20,340 they reversed engineered something 478 00:18:24,830 --> 00:18:23,280 fast forward 80 years we now have a 479 00:18:26,029 --> 00:18:24,840 space force 480 00:18:27,529 --> 00:18:26,039 um and you know what here's an 481 00:18:29,270 --> 00:18:27,539 interesting fact too we had planes 482 00:18:30,470 --> 00:18:29,280 before we had the Air Force that's why 483 00:18:32,750 --> 00:18:30,480 they called it the Air Force because 484 00:18:34,370 --> 00:18:32,760 they had planes right so we now have a 485 00:18:36,950 --> 00:18:34,380 space force but where are the spaceships 486 00:18:39,470 --> 00:18:36,960 I mentioned that Ryan I said which one 487 00:18:41,570 --> 00:18:39,480 comes first the crew or the space for 488 00:18:43,310 --> 00:18:41,580 the spaceships are coming and how do you 489 00:18:45,650 --> 00:18:43,320 and how do you uh 490 00:18:47,029 --> 00:18:45,660 and how do you say that you gotta you 491 00:18:48,350 --> 00:18:47,039 gotta prep it you gotta take the 492 00:18:49,730 --> 00:18:48,360 information you got to control it and 493 00:18:52,070 --> 00:18:49,740 you got to put it out but what happened 494 00:18:54,529 --> 00:18:52,080 as a result of that well you have this 495 00:18:57,049 --> 00:18:54,539 information being leaked out now you've 496 00:18:58,669 --> 00:18:57,059 got to contain a data breach that's more 497 00:19:01,250 --> 00:18:58,679 important it doesn't matter what whether 498 00:19:02,630 --> 00:19:01,260 the video is considered a drone uh by 499 00:19:03,950 --> 00:19:02,640 Congress or whatever and that last thing 500 00:19:05,870 --> 00:19:03,960 or whatever happened whatever they 501 00:19:07,789 --> 00:19:05,880 consider it to be 502 00:19:09,890 --> 00:19:07,799 um you can't ignore the fact that 503 00:19:12,529 --> 00:19:09,900 information was supposed to be protected 504 00:19:13,789 --> 00:19:12,539 was not protected and and people of the 505 00:19:15,950 --> 00:19:13,799 government went against the government 506 00:19:18,230 --> 00:19:15,960 for whatever reason they want to breach 507 00:19:20,390 --> 00:19:18,240 information so they can do that with 508 00:19:21,890 --> 00:19:20,400 that they can do that with anything and 509 00:19:23,690 --> 00:19:21,900 these guys you know it's actually the 510 00:19:25,850 --> 00:19:23,700 criminal offense it's against the law 511 00:19:28,610 --> 00:19:25,860 and and so so 512 00:19:30,230 --> 00:19:28,620 um as a business owner uh and who has 513 00:19:32,210 --> 00:19:30,240 employees I kind of look at that like 514 00:19:34,549 --> 00:19:32,220 you know how do you how do you change 515 00:19:35,930 --> 00:19:34,559 your policies when with when you have so 516 00:19:37,669 --> 00:19:35,940 many employees in the United States 517 00:19:39,310 --> 00:19:37,679 government have so many employees and 518 00:19:42,230 --> 00:19:39,320 whatever their policy was in place 519 00:19:44,029 --> 00:19:42,240 allowed this information to get out it 520 00:19:45,409 --> 00:19:44,039 created this upward now they're doing 521 00:19:48,590 --> 00:19:45,419 damage control 522 00:19:51,409 --> 00:19:48,600 and at the same time removing the stigma 523 00:19:52,789 --> 00:19:51,419 so it normalizes and what I think might 524 00:19:53,810 --> 00:19:52,799 just happen is they're not going to tell 525 00:19:55,490 --> 00:19:53,820 us anything they're just going to say 526 00:19:57,470 --> 00:19:55,500 okay everything's up and running we'll 527 00:20:00,049 --> 00:19:57,480 give a report here's the report nothing 528 00:20:02,090 --> 00:20:00,059 to see here and then 529 00:20:04,130 --> 00:20:02,100 and just continue to say that every year 530 00:20:06,289 --> 00:20:04,140 that there's nothing here but show that 531 00:20:08,210 --> 00:20:06,299 they're looking into them right do you 532 00:20:10,310 --> 00:20:08,220 think there's a recent Catalyst on the 533 00:20:12,950 --> 00:20:10,320 Canadian side because I mean I think of 534 00:20:15,049 --> 00:20:12,960 Paul Heller you know responding to a 535 00:20:16,370 --> 00:20:15,059 crash in Manitoba somewhere and the 536 00:20:17,990 --> 00:20:16,380 Americans are already there cleaning it 537 00:20:20,150 --> 00:20:18,000 up and he's the head of the Canadian 538 00:20:22,130 --> 00:20:20,160 defense and that's what charged him up 539 00:20:24,230 --> 00:20:22,140 to you know join the National 540 00:20:25,730 --> 00:20:24,240 um Press Club and all the rest to say I 541 00:20:28,070 --> 00:20:25,740 was the highest guy in the military and 542 00:20:29,870 --> 00:20:28,080 I was in privy to this so what the hell 543 00:20:32,150 --> 00:20:29,880 is going on if it's above my pay grade 544 00:20:34,490 --> 00:20:32,160 so was there like a separate Catalyst 545 00:20:36,470 --> 00:20:34,500 event in Canada or is this all a result 546 00:20:38,330 --> 00:20:36,480 of like Tic Tac in the last five years 547 00:20:40,730 --> 00:20:38,340 where everybody's really starting to 548 00:20:42,049 --> 00:20:40,740 open their eyes and talk uh you think 549 00:20:44,210 --> 00:20:42,059 it's just like like most things 550 00:20:46,549 --> 00:20:44,220 piggybacking on American trickle effect 551 00:20:48,830 --> 00:20:46,559 or was something did something happen on 552 00:20:51,650 --> 00:20:48,840 our side of the Border well that I'm 553 00:20:53,390 --> 00:20:51,660 aware of I like I mean I know with the 554 00:20:56,750 --> 00:20:53,400 history of rutowski in the history of 555 00:20:59,990 --> 00:20:56,760 Cameron uh Chris Styles like a few 556 00:21:02,570 --> 00:21:00,000 others uh you know to name and even 557 00:21:06,350 --> 00:21:02,580 Friedman in the past you know like so so 558 00:21:07,970 --> 00:21:06,360 like they in their times they pushed and 559 00:21:09,529 --> 00:21:07,980 they've been on the news and they pushed 560 00:21:11,510 --> 00:21:09,539 the narrative to a certain point it just 561 00:21:17,090 --> 00:21:11,520 wasn't popular in American television 562 00:21:19,970 --> 00:21:17,100 America right so now we are piggybacking 563 00:21:22,549 --> 00:21:19,980 because we have to yeah 564 00:21:24,950 --> 00:21:22,559 um to to take the momentum it's an 565 00:21:26,390 --> 00:21:24,960 opportunity why not right so we had to 566 00:21:30,730 --> 00:21:26,400 kind of had a private discussion with 567 00:21:35,570 --> 00:21:33,350 should we do our own thing but you know 568 00:21:37,570 --> 00:21:35,580 we're kind of doing or doing our own 569 00:21:40,310 --> 00:21:37,580 thing but to get this into 570 00:21:42,049 --> 00:21:40,320 mainstream media took a lot of movement 571 00:21:44,029 --> 00:21:42,059 a lot of Shifting but we had to 572 00:21:45,770 --> 00:21:44,039 piggyback up that momentum because to 573 00:21:48,890 --> 00:21:45,780 say the metoo kind of like in a sense 574 00:21:50,570 --> 00:21:48,900 right like and not to not to talk ill of 575 00:21:54,470 --> 00:21:50,580 that movement separate movement but that 576 00:21:56,570 --> 00:21:54,480 kind of uh that example in terms of you 577 00:21:58,490 --> 00:21:56,580 know we have UFO too we were there at 578 00:22:01,010 --> 00:21:58,500 the Cold War we uh you know we have 579 00:22:02,750 --> 00:22:01,020 issues we this is uh there is no wall 580 00:22:04,370 --> 00:22:02,760 between us and them like you know we're 581 00:22:08,289 --> 00:22:04,380 at risk and all these other things too 582 00:22:11,510 --> 00:22:08,299 so the narrative is there and people 583 00:22:15,529 --> 00:22:11,520 optimized on it and they took it 584 00:22:18,110 --> 00:22:15,539 and now we're at that point in real time 585 00:22:20,029 --> 00:22:18,120 that in 45 days we should get a response 586 00:22:22,970 --> 00:22:20,039 from the house comments on what they say 587 00:22:24,890 --> 00:22:22,980 which puts us in the same spot as the 588 00:22:26,270 --> 00:22:24,900 Americans were a few years back or a 589 00:22:28,370 --> 00:22:26,280 year back I can't remember what time it 590 00:22:29,149 --> 00:22:28,380 is with the pandemic 591 00:22:31,789 --> 00:22:29,159 um 592 00:22:34,250 --> 00:22:31,799 and then if they if America closes the 593 00:22:36,830 --> 00:22:34,260 lid on it from Canada closes the lid on 594 00:22:39,110 --> 00:22:36,840 it then that's the end of it and the 595 00:22:41,570 --> 00:22:39,120 rest of it is speculation 596 00:22:43,789 --> 00:22:41,580 but if it's the end of it is it is it 597 00:22:45,770 --> 00:22:43,799 the truth then that's the issue with 598 00:22:47,270 --> 00:22:45,780 with with this movement is there's 599 00:22:48,529 --> 00:22:47,280 different versions of truth there's 600 00:22:51,110 --> 00:22:48,539 perspectives 601 00:22:53,510 --> 00:22:51,120 everyone wants to do like I mean if you 602 00:22:55,010 --> 00:22:53,520 analyze the facts and you accept them as 603 00:22:56,990 --> 00:22:55,020 they are it's already been figured out 604 00:22:58,730 --> 00:22:57,000 it's not a threat it's not an issue we 605 00:23:00,529 --> 00:22:58,740 got it we want to know about it we can't 606 00:23:02,149 --> 00:23:00,539 tell you we've already told you what we 607 00:23:04,130 --> 00:23:02,159 can but you want more and we can't do 608 00:23:06,049 --> 00:23:04,140 anything about that it's like you know 609 00:23:07,430 --> 00:23:06,059 firing someone like you can't do it it 610 00:23:08,450 --> 00:23:07,440 can't I understand you're upset you're 611 00:23:09,770 --> 00:23:08,460 losing your house and all these other 612 00:23:12,409 --> 00:23:09,780 things but I've still got to let you go 613 00:23:15,770 --> 00:23:12,419 you know like it's it's a difficult it's 614 00:23:17,810 --> 00:23:15,780 a difficult uh thing to say and that 615 00:23:19,970 --> 00:23:17,820 to me indicates that there's something 616 00:23:21,409 --> 00:23:19,980 else going on which is why I focus on 617 00:23:23,510 --> 00:23:21,419 studying with people 618 00:23:26,450 --> 00:23:23,520 so the expansion support Association is 619 00:23:28,549 --> 00:23:26,460 is uh is a study of the people and why 620 00:23:30,409 --> 00:23:28,559 how they are affected by the phenomenon 621 00:23:32,810 --> 00:23:30,419 and why they are affected by the 622 00:23:35,210 --> 00:23:32,820 phenomenon and which types of phenomenon 623 00:23:38,090 --> 00:23:35,220 they're affected with and what methods 624 00:23:40,610 --> 00:23:38,100 they use to interact with the phenomenon 625 00:23:42,770 --> 00:23:40,620 to figure out what parallels between all 626 00:23:43,850 --> 00:23:42,780 phenomenons to understand what might be 627 00:23:45,590 --> 00:23:43,860 happening 628 00:23:47,510 --> 00:23:45,600 so 629 00:23:49,430 --> 00:23:47,520 um the common denominator or the common 630 00:23:51,830 --> 00:23:49,440 link between all phenomenons is the 631 00:23:53,149 --> 00:23:51,840 human being you know we all have faith 632 00:23:54,350 --> 00:23:53,159 we all have different beliefs we all 633 00:23:56,270 --> 00:23:54,360 have different understandings we all 634 00:23:58,250 --> 00:23:56,280 have all these other things but we also 635 00:23:59,210 --> 00:23:58,260 have these different layers of psychic 636 00:24:02,630 --> 00:23:59,220 abilities 637 00:24:07,250 --> 00:24:04,850 um and I'm also trying to 638 00:24:10,130 --> 00:24:07,260 work with the Paranormal community and 639 00:24:12,049 --> 00:24:10,140 the UFO UAP Community to kind of bridge 640 00:24:13,549 --> 00:24:12,059 the data together 641 00:24:16,370 --> 00:24:13,559 so that 642 00:24:19,130 --> 00:24:16,380 more information can be shared to 643 00:24:20,390 --> 00:24:19,140 understand a deeper root of things so if 644 00:24:22,190 --> 00:24:20,400 these are just machines and they're 645 00:24:24,470 --> 00:24:22,200 probably human oriented unless they're 646 00:24:25,909 --> 00:24:24,480 controlled consciously with remote 647 00:24:27,590 --> 00:24:25,919 viewing 648 00:24:28,850 --> 00:24:27,600 and that's it for that's something that 649 00:24:30,289 --> 00:24:28,860 needs to be explained and all that other 650 00:24:32,210 --> 00:24:30,299 stuff too but if you take that 651 00:24:33,909 --> 00:24:32,220 Consciousness perspective in the UFO 652 00:24:36,350 --> 00:24:33,919 side and you look at 653 00:24:38,390 --> 00:24:36,360 uh telekinesis that's still 654 00:24:40,010 --> 00:24:38,400 Consciousness activity right it's just 655 00:24:40,970 --> 00:24:40,020 in that paranormal Spectrum so there's a 656 00:24:42,590 --> 00:24:40,980 lot of 657 00:24:45,289 --> 00:24:42,600 um 658 00:24:46,789 --> 00:24:45,299 stigma that the UFO community that wants 659 00:24:48,169 --> 00:24:46,799 to avoid in the Paranormal Community 660 00:24:49,970 --> 00:24:48,179 because they don't want uh they need to 661 00:24:51,529 --> 00:24:49,980 focus on their nuts and bolts but the 662 00:24:54,649 --> 00:24:51,539 reality of it 663 00:24:56,149 --> 00:24:54,659 um this abduction phenomenon and this 664 00:24:58,669 --> 00:24:56,159 interaction with these species there 665 00:25:02,210 --> 00:24:58,679 it's there's some sort of 666 00:25:04,070 --> 00:25:02,220 space that I've you know that our minds 667 00:25:06,529 --> 00:25:04,080 are able to go to whether We're Dreaming 668 00:25:07,669 --> 00:25:06,539 whether we're meditating 669 00:25:09,649 --> 00:25:07,679 um whether 670 00:25:12,350 --> 00:25:09,659 um near-death experience you know we're 671 00:25:14,090 --> 00:25:12,360 getting information from a place and 672 00:25:16,310 --> 00:25:14,100 we're seeing a variance of things and 673 00:25:18,590 --> 00:25:16,320 calling them different things so when I 674 00:25:20,510 --> 00:25:18,600 work with the people and I ask them you 675 00:25:21,890 --> 00:25:20,520 know describe a light and describe what 676 00:25:24,230 --> 00:25:21,900 you saw and they're talking about what I 677 00:25:26,029 --> 00:25:24,240 call sensory display aerial activity 678 00:25:28,430 --> 00:25:26,039 it's either level one or level two which 679 00:25:30,409 --> 00:25:28,440 is either a machine or a light 680 00:25:32,750 --> 00:25:30,419 um and 681 00:25:34,970 --> 00:25:32,760 you know how would you how would you 682 00:25:36,409 --> 00:25:34,980 describe it and looking at archetypes so 683 00:25:38,330 --> 00:25:36,419 we have a light in the sky that's moving 684 00:25:40,610 --> 00:25:38,340 around so in the UFO Community we would 685 00:25:43,190 --> 00:25:40,620 call that a UAP some still might call 686 00:25:45,529 --> 00:25:43,200 that a UFO but I I tend to use the word 687 00:25:47,390 --> 00:25:45,539 UFO for machines UAP for lights it's 688 00:25:49,370 --> 00:25:47,400 kind of how I separate it okay despite 689 00:25:50,090 --> 00:25:49,380 how we're told 690 00:25:52,430 --> 00:25:50,100 um 691 00:25:54,049 --> 00:25:52,440 and but some people also call paranormal 692 00:25:56,570 --> 00:25:54,059 like as a ghost or 693 00:25:59,330 --> 00:25:56,580 you know so so that is a 694 00:26:01,690 --> 00:25:59,340 um perspective but when you remove that 695 00:26:04,010 --> 00:26:01,700 archetype and you look at the image 696 00:26:06,710 --> 00:26:04,020 it's still a light in the sky which is 697 00:26:09,769 --> 00:26:06,720 why it's a Sentry display because 698 00:26:11,870 --> 00:26:09,779 um a sensor one of your senses was used 699 00:26:14,269 --> 00:26:11,880 to observe it you either saw it or you 700 00:26:16,310 --> 00:26:14,279 heard it uh or perhaps it was in your 701 00:26:20,029 --> 00:26:16,320 mind so it allows the possibility of 702 00:26:21,710 --> 00:26:20,039 psychic uh sightings to happen because 703 00:26:23,149 --> 00:26:21,720 um uh just because somebody isn't able 704 00:26:24,350 --> 00:26:23,159 to take a picture of it or they took 705 00:26:25,549 --> 00:26:24,360 these pictures and it's not there 706 00:26:27,049 --> 00:26:25,559 anymore it doesn't mean it wasn't 707 00:26:28,310 --> 00:26:27,059 actually there and you validate the 708 00:26:29,510 --> 00:26:28,320 witness will characterize all those 709 00:26:30,890 --> 00:26:29,520 other things it's possible they might 710 00:26:33,529 --> 00:26:30,900 have seen it in their mind 711 00:26:35,330 --> 00:26:33,539 so the way that I do my study when I do 712 00:26:37,370 --> 00:26:35,340 that with each individual people and 713 00:26:39,830 --> 00:26:37,380 they approach it and I'm doing reports 714 00:26:41,269 --> 00:26:39,840 on this of course to show this show this 715 00:26:43,010 --> 00:26:41,279 study 716 00:26:43,970 --> 00:26:43,020 um I'm seeing 717 00:26:45,590 --> 00:26:43,980 um 718 00:26:47,090 --> 00:26:45,600 that people are calling it different 719 00:26:49,070 --> 00:26:47,100 things and they have different methods 720 00:26:51,470 --> 00:26:49,080 some people can take pictures of it some 721 00:26:53,330 --> 00:26:51,480 people can don't have pictures of it but 722 00:26:55,549 --> 00:26:53,340 or having dreams of it some people 723 00:26:56,930 --> 00:26:55,559 meditate and then they see it and when 724 00:26:59,510 --> 00:26:56,940 they all draw you look at these images 725 00:27:01,010 --> 00:26:59,520 together it doesn't matter how they got 726 00:27:04,070 --> 00:27:01,020 there it's just you have you know it's 727 00:27:06,409 --> 00:27:04,080 it appears to be interdimensional if 728 00:27:07,549 --> 00:27:06,419 this object is the same object that all 729 00:27:09,289 --> 00:27:07,559 these people are seeing so the 730 00:27:10,970 --> 00:27:09,299 resemblance the comparing contrast that 731 00:27:13,010 --> 00:27:10,980 I see is that they're all seeing these 732 00:27:15,110 --> 00:27:13,020 different types of orbs so there's a 733 00:27:17,870 --> 00:27:15,120 consonant this orb exists 734 00:27:20,990 --> 00:27:17,880 but we have this variance of where it 735 00:27:22,669 --> 00:27:21,000 might be and what reality it might be 736 00:27:24,649 --> 00:27:22,679 but we have a bunch of different 737 00:27:27,289 --> 00:27:24,659 witnesses that are able to see it so the 738 00:27:29,570 --> 00:27:27,299 so when I focus on the people then I 739 00:27:31,430 --> 00:27:29,580 look at their uh the biological data 740 00:27:33,529 --> 00:27:31,440 that they provide with their reports on 741 00:27:35,269 --> 00:27:33,539 our system so you know a hair color eye 742 00:27:37,310 --> 00:27:35,279 color blood type all those other things 743 00:27:39,950 --> 00:27:37,320 there seems to be commonalities with 744 00:27:42,529 --> 00:27:39,960 that as well literally so so there seems 745 00:27:44,210 --> 00:27:42,539 to be patterns that certain types of 746 00:27:46,430 --> 00:27:44,220 people at certain types of Ages and 747 00:27:47,090 --> 00:27:46,440 things like that are able to 748 00:27:50,750 --> 00:27:47,100 um 749 00:27:52,490 --> 00:27:50,760 to observe this activity so and that 750 00:27:53,810 --> 00:27:52,500 kind of like doesn't make us crazy it's 751 00:27:55,490 --> 00:27:53,820 just trying to understand where to look 752 00:27:57,169 --> 00:27:55,500 now of course I can understand the nuts 753 00:27:58,669 --> 00:27:57,179 in both Community where you how do you 754 00:28:00,289 --> 00:27:58,679 prove Consciousness how do you prove the 755 00:28:02,090 --> 00:28:00,299 stuff in your mind how can you prove 756 00:28:03,710 --> 00:28:02,100 it's not a dream that's where the 757 00:28:05,750 --> 00:28:03,720 investigating skill comes in because you 758 00:28:07,549 --> 00:28:05,760 got to build a case and you need 759 00:28:09,169 --> 00:28:07,559 multiple Witnesses and you've got to 760 00:28:11,570 --> 00:28:09,179 build the case the same way and take 761 00:28:14,570 --> 00:28:11,580 that and remove that fluff and then 762 00:28:18,350 --> 00:28:14,580 create a a new regulated system 763 00:28:20,990 --> 00:28:18,360 so I created an a classification system 764 00:28:23,510 --> 00:28:21,000 which is an homage to Heineken ballet's 765 00:28:26,029 --> 00:28:23,520 classification scale I haven't had the 766 00:28:27,890 --> 00:28:26,039 privilege to talk to valet about it I 767 00:28:30,890 --> 00:28:27,900 did reach out to him 768 00:28:33,230 --> 00:28:30,900 um but I did speak to Paul heineck 769 00:28:35,269 --> 00:28:33,240 um about it before I made it and then he 770 00:28:37,610 --> 00:28:35,279 uh told me there was no offense taken if 771 00:28:39,470 --> 00:28:37,620 I try to you know do a different scale 772 00:28:41,330 --> 00:28:39,480 but essentially it's the Heineken valet 773 00:28:43,130 --> 00:28:41,340 classification scale just one little 774 00:28:45,909 --> 00:28:43,140 section in it and the rest is all new 775 00:28:48,470 --> 00:28:45,919 and the point of that is to break down 776 00:28:50,529 --> 00:28:48,480 all of this phenomenon and put it in 777 00:28:53,090 --> 00:28:50,539 these new baskets to try to understand 778 00:28:55,370 --> 00:28:53,100 what it could be while removing the 779 00:28:58,789 --> 00:28:55,380 archetype so another example would be 780 00:29:00,590 --> 00:28:58,799 beings observed so we just agree that 781 00:29:02,330 --> 00:29:00,600 it's a being that was observed you can 782 00:29:04,430 --> 00:29:02,340 call it an alien you can call it a ghost 783 00:29:06,649 --> 00:29:04,440 you could call it a pull uh a shadow 784 00:29:08,930 --> 00:29:06,659 figure you can call whatever you want 785 00:29:11,750 --> 00:29:08,940 that's you know it's just like a 786 00:29:13,490 --> 00:29:11,760 different religions we all have a God uh 787 00:29:15,230 --> 00:29:13,500 so so that's that's what brings us 788 00:29:16,610 --> 00:29:15,240 together we can agree that there is a 789 00:29:17,990 --> 00:29:16,620 higher power but we might have different 790 00:29:19,490 --> 00:29:18,000 characteristics or different thoughts on 791 00:29:21,169 --> 00:29:19,500 that so it's kind of that same concept 792 00:29:24,769 --> 00:29:21,179 and then 793 00:29:27,049 --> 00:29:24,779 um so I'm noticing that when I see like 794 00:29:28,430 --> 00:29:27,059 shadow figures drawn and I ask for the 795 00:29:30,950 --> 00:29:28,440 archetype what they think it is they're 796 00:29:33,769 --> 00:29:30,960 calling these beings that I know in the 797 00:29:36,350 --> 00:29:33,779 UFO Community are technically aliens but 798 00:29:39,049 --> 00:29:36,360 they're calling them ghosts or there's 799 00:29:40,850 --> 00:29:39,059 these alien figures uh 800 00:29:42,649 --> 00:29:40,860 um some of these ghostly figures and 801 00:29:45,350 --> 00:29:42,659 they're calling them aliens so the 802 00:29:46,909 --> 00:29:45,360 people themselves also don't know what 803 00:29:48,950 --> 00:29:46,919 to call them but they're observing 804 00:29:51,049 --> 00:29:48,960 similar things so when I remove the 805 00:29:52,970 --> 00:29:51,059 labels and look at that again I do start 806 00:29:54,889 --> 00:29:52,980 to see characteristics and some of these 807 00:29:56,269 --> 00:29:54,899 photos that I have or drawings that I 808 00:29:58,250 --> 00:29:56,279 have 809 00:30:00,409 --> 00:29:58,260 um there's this cloak this cloak seems 810 00:30:02,510 --> 00:30:00,419 to be common I have these shadow figures 811 00:30:05,269 --> 00:30:02,520 wearing cloaks I have reptilians wearing 812 00:30:07,190 --> 00:30:05,279 cloaks I have police have Pleiadians 813 00:30:08,570 --> 00:30:07,200 wearing cloaks so different people in 814 00:30:11,870 --> 00:30:08,580 different stages remember different 815 00:30:14,269 --> 00:30:11,880 pieces of information that these cloaks 816 00:30:15,590 --> 00:30:14,279 seem to be common just in this 817 00:30:17,630 --> 00:30:15,600 particular a study that I'm working on 818 00:30:20,330 --> 00:30:17,640 so what that tells me is that like 819 00:30:22,430 --> 00:30:20,340 there's there's cloak idea that we need 820 00:30:24,470 --> 00:30:22,440 to focus on that's kind of all that 821 00:30:26,510 --> 00:30:24,480 because when the person perceives it 822 00:30:28,610 --> 00:30:26,520 when the person remember remembers it 823 00:30:31,010 --> 00:30:28,620 there's so many things going on and you 824 00:30:33,169 --> 00:30:31,020 got to look at the individual and and 825 00:30:35,690 --> 00:30:33,179 there's got to be a lot of belief this 826 00:30:36,950 --> 00:30:35,700 is also very important the reason why 827 00:30:39,049 --> 00:30:36,960 I'm able to get this much information 828 00:30:41,450 --> 00:30:39,059 because I I believe that something 829 00:30:43,190 --> 00:30:41,460 happened I just don't necessarily 830 00:30:45,409 --> 00:30:43,200 believe that what they think happened is 831 00:30:47,630 --> 00:30:45,419 what actually happened and there are 832 00:30:50,330 --> 00:30:47,640 some cases where especially with sexual 833 00:30:52,510 --> 00:30:50,340 assault I've mentioned before 834 00:30:55,610 --> 00:30:52,520 um it's just oppressed or or suppressed 835 00:30:58,430 --> 00:30:55,620 childhood trauma uh that they Mass 836 00:30:59,750 --> 00:30:58,440 between an alien uh it was just used to 837 00:31:02,930 --> 00:30:59,760 say it was abducted by aliens than to 838 00:31:05,029 --> 00:31:02,940 admit that uh you know a step parent had 839 00:31:07,130 --> 00:31:05,039 to abuse them so like there's a lot of 840 00:31:08,990 --> 00:31:07,140 those things that kind of go in when you 841 00:31:11,090 --> 00:31:09,000 get into these abduction cases 842 00:31:14,169 --> 00:31:11,100 so what I'm finding 843 00:31:17,210 --> 00:31:14,179 is that there is the government 844 00:31:19,070 --> 00:31:17,220 who is forced to respond as they should 845 00:31:21,049 --> 00:31:19,080 as our leaders and they need to need to 846 00:31:22,610 --> 00:31:21,059 do something because it got out of hand 847 00:31:25,610 --> 00:31:22,620 so they're Recon you know they're 848 00:31:27,350 --> 00:31:25,620 containing uh containing control of the 849 00:31:30,649 --> 00:31:27,360 information to move on to the next step 850 00:31:32,570 --> 00:31:30,659 and then you have 851 00:31:33,950 --> 00:31:32,580 people that are experiencing a 852 00:31:37,130 --> 00:31:33,960 phenomenon without any support 853 00:31:40,010 --> 00:31:37,140 whatsoever and there's this great deal 854 00:31:42,409 --> 00:31:40,020 of trauma anxiety 855 00:31:44,930 --> 00:31:42,419 um I wouldn't say Mental Illness but 856 00:31:45,889 --> 00:31:44,940 there are these 857 00:31:48,110 --> 00:31:45,899 foreign 858 00:31:50,630 --> 00:31:48,120 fears that they might be perceived as 859 00:31:52,430 --> 00:31:50,640 being mentally ill because they uh 860 00:31:54,529 --> 00:31:52,440 Associated these things with that so 861 00:31:56,750 --> 00:31:54,539 there's still 862 00:31:57,830 --> 00:31:56,760 the people need to be taken care of so 863 00:31:59,750 --> 00:31:57,840 the point of experience to support 864 00:32:01,130 --> 00:31:59,760 association with the investigations and 865 00:32:04,250 --> 00:32:01,140 all this other stuff is to provide 866 00:32:05,990 --> 00:32:04,260 resources to help live and cope with the 867 00:32:08,149 --> 00:32:06,000 experience no matter what it is because 868 00:32:10,190 --> 00:32:08,159 even if it's if I tell them it's not an 869 00:32:12,110 --> 00:32:10,200 alien I have no proof of that it's just 870 00:32:13,730 --> 00:32:12,120 a belief but they're living with it 871 00:32:15,409 --> 00:32:13,740 every day and think it's negative so the 872 00:32:17,570 --> 00:32:15,419 easiest thing for me to do is try to 873 00:32:18,769 --> 00:32:17,580 help them take that negative and make it 874 00:32:20,029 --> 00:32:18,779 a positive 875 00:32:21,110 --> 00:32:20,039 right 876 00:32:22,250 --> 00:32:21,120 um and if they're changing the way 877 00:32:24,110 --> 00:32:22,260 they're thinking then they change the 878 00:32:25,549 --> 00:32:24,120 way they feel like they change the way 879 00:32:27,769 --> 00:32:25,559 they feel 880 00:32:30,169 --> 00:32:27,779 um then uh then everything kind of 881 00:32:32,810 --> 00:32:30,179 changes from there in a positive way so 882 00:32:34,190 --> 00:32:32,820 if disclosure see it depends on who 883 00:32:35,750 --> 00:32:34,200 we're asking what we're going to get in 884 00:32:37,549 --> 00:32:35,760 confirmations we'll get confirmation 885 00:32:39,110 --> 00:32:37,559 from a government source of human source 886 00:32:41,750 --> 00:32:39,120 to give us answers about human 887 00:32:44,090 --> 00:32:41,760 engineered machines that may have come 888 00:32:46,190 --> 00:32:44,100 from ancestors that aren't even here 889 00:32:48,049 --> 00:32:46,200 anymore or we're never here to begin 890 00:32:50,810 --> 00:32:48,059 with that doesn't matter we have control 891 00:32:55,250 --> 00:32:50,820 of the information or the machines now 892 00:32:56,450 --> 00:32:55,260 but then to this Supernatural kind of 893 00:32:58,250 --> 00:32:56,460 thing that may not actually be 894 00:33:00,830 --> 00:32:58,260 Supernatural it's paranormal might not 895 00:33:03,470 --> 00:33:00,840 even be paranormal is normal now whereas 896 00:33:05,930 --> 00:33:03,480 we have these abilities that that may 897 00:33:08,149 --> 00:33:05,940 have always existed and because we were 898 00:33:11,269 --> 00:33:08,159 not able to explore that we're now 899 00:33:13,130 --> 00:33:11,279 learning that and um as an example I was 900 00:33:14,570 --> 00:33:13,140 like I'm always when I get experiential 901 00:33:16,430 --> 00:33:14,580 reports 902 00:33:18,409 --> 00:33:16,440 um from Witnesses I get them to report 903 00:33:19,850 --> 00:33:18,419 all their experiences some might be UFO 904 00:33:22,370 --> 00:33:19,860 paranormal Cryptid all these other 905 00:33:24,590 --> 00:33:22,380 things and then I timeline the ones that 906 00:33:26,330 --> 00:33:24,600 are that I can't identify at least and 907 00:33:27,830 --> 00:33:26,340 just because I can't identify it doesn't 908 00:33:28,909 --> 00:33:27,840 mean it's an unknown it just means I 909 00:33:30,889 --> 00:33:28,919 don't know what it is and I'm hoping 910 00:33:33,529 --> 00:33:30,899 somebody else will 911 00:33:35,029 --> 00:33:33,539 um but I'm seeing this pattern where it 912 00:33:37,190 --> 00:33:35,039 starts with some sort of what I call 913 00:33:38,990 --> 00:33:37,200 visitation because I don't like the word 914 00:33:40,730 --> 00:33:39,000 abduction it implies negative off the 915 00:33:42,710 --> 00:33:40,740 bat so I say visitation so it could be 916 00:33:44,029 --> 00:33:42,720 negative or positive I'm also measuring 917 00:33:46,490 --> 00:33:44,039 positive experiences because that's 918 00:33:47,990 --> 00:33:46,500 information as well well some people 919 00:33:49,730 --> 00:33:48,000 don't want to talk about the positive 920 00:33:50,990 --> 00:33:49,740 stuff because it doesn't it doesn't have 921 00:33:52,970 --> 00:33:51,000 that threat negative you know a 922 00:33:54,409 --> 00:33:52,980 narrative if it bleeds it leads kind of 923 00:33:56,389 --> 00:33:54,419 type deal but you can still get good 924 00:33:57,769 --> 00:33:56,399 information from those who believe and 925 00:33:59,330 --> 00:33:57,779 and the angels and all that other stuff 926 00:34:00,590 --> 00:33:59,340 because there's those if you know how to 927 00:34:01,850 --> 00:34:00,600 build a case 928 00:34:03,289 --> 00:34:01,860 so 929 00:34:05,690 --> 00:34:03,299 we're getting into this Evolution 930 00:34:07,190 --> 00:34:05,700 pattern that I'm seeing is that these 931 00:34:09,790 --> 00:34:07,200 experiencers have some sort of 932 00:34:13,790 --> 00:34:09,800 visitation or contact at an early age 933 00:34:17,389 --> 00:34:13,800 and their Early Child ages uh you know 934 00:34:19,609 --> 00:34:17,399 might have a paranormal experience 935 00:34:22,250 --> 00:34:19,619 um and then in their teenage years 936 00:34:23,869 --> 00:34:22,260 there's some Poltergeist activity and 937 00:34:26,869 --> 00:34:23,879 then as they get older they have this 938 00:34:28,990 --> 00:34:26,879 interest in in pseudomedicine or like 939 00:34:31,190 --> 00:34:29,000 Reiki or uh 940 00:34:32,810 --> 00:34:31,200 meditation and things like that and then 941 00:34:34,430 --> 00:34:32,820 all of a sudden close to end of life 942 00:34:35,930 --> 00:34:34,440 they're like a blown out psychic and 943 00:34:38,389 --> 00:34:35,940 Tarot reader and all these other things 944 00:34:39,889 --> 00:34:38,399 so when you meet these people at 945 00:34:41,329 --> 00:34:39,899 different parts of their life when you 946 00:34:43,970 --> 00:34:41,339 understand their history as an 947 00:34:47,450 --> 00:34:43,980 individual there's signs of evolution 948 00:34:50,329 --> 00:34:47,460 and it's it's possible that there was 949 00:34:52,129 --> 00:34:50,339 contact that was made 950 00:34:54,290 --> 00:34:52,139 whether that's and if that's human 951 00:34:55,669 --> 00:34:54,300 contact and that would be the MK Ultra 952 00:34:57,349 --> 00:34:55,679 kind of scenario where they're 953 00:34:58,670 --> 00:34:57,359 experimenting with you know with the 954 00:35:00,170 --> 00:34:58,680 mind because we know that exists they 955 00:35:02,870 --> 00:35:00,180 know that they knew something in order 956 00:35:04,310 --> 00:35:02,880 to test with this whether those uh still 957 00:35:07,130 --> 00:35:04,320 happens that's that's the thing but 958 00:35:09,890 --> 00:35:07,140 something happened then we've evolved 959 00:35:15,109 --> 00:35:09,900 over the years and perhaps this this 960 00:35:16,790 --> 00:35:15,119 paranormal thing is is actually the real 961 00:35:19,010 --> 00:35:16,800 um back 962 00:35:21,109 --> 00:35:19,020 I guess walked in sheep's clothing if 963 00:35:24,170 --> 00:35:21,119 you will were real nasta kind of tells 964 00:35:26,089 --> 00:35:24,180 us that we as beings aren't uh as 965 00:35:28,310 --> 00:35:26,099 Superior as we should be because we're 966 00:35:30,410 --> 00:35:28,320 afraid of these ghosts we're afraid of 967 00:35:32,450 --> 00:35:30,420 this Poltergeist activity we're afraid 968 00:35:33,950 --> 00:35:32,460 of this psychic stuff but really if it's 969 00:35:36,050 --> 00:35:33,960 evolution 970 00:35:37,550 --> 00:35:36,060 then this is the way we are is the way 971 00:35:38,990 --> 00:35:37,560 we should be so with the expansion 972 00:35:40,430 --> 00:35:39,000 support Association through the studies 973 00:35:42,829 --> 00:35:40,440 too we kind of want to encourage people 974 00:35:44,390 --> 00:35:42,839 to develop these abilities as well if 975 00:35:46,910 --> 00:35:44,400 they have it to prove it and to test it 976 00:35:48,290 --> 00:35:46,920 in the parapsychology side 977 00:35:50,870 --> 00:35:48,300 so 978 00:35:53,870 --> 00:35:50,880 the interesting thing is this 979 00:35:57,349 --> 00:35:53,880 Poltergeist phenomenon is you know you 980 00:35:59,510 --> 00:35:57,359 get into this part where 981 00:36:01,010 --> 00:35:59,520 you come home and all of a sudden these 982 00:36:02,150 --> 00:36:01,020 cupboards are opening up and closing and 983 00:36:04,010 --> 00:36:02,160 all these other things and then you 984 00:36:05,810 --> 00:36:04,020 automatically think nine times out of 985 00:36:07,550 --> 00:36:05,820 ten it's a ghost it's threatening 986 00:36:08,690 --> 00:36:07,560 because it's terrifying we want to leave 987 00:36:09,710 --> 00:36:08,700 your house you want to do all these 988 00:36:11,270 --> 00:36:09,720 other things you don't want to be around 989 00:36:13,130 --> 00:36:11,280 it but 990 00:36:15,349 --> 00:36:13,140 when I get in and I talk to him and ask 991 00:36:17,569 --> 00:36:15,359 put the put it cross-examine if you will 992 00:36:19,790 --> 00:36:17,579 and say things like you know is it 993 00:36:22,069 --> 00:36:19,800 possible that you move them and when you 994 00:36:24,530 --> 00:36:22,079 start thinking about it it's like you 995 00:36:27,170 --> 00:36:24,540 know what I was stressed that day I was 996 00:36:29,089 --> 00:36:27,180 uh it was in my teenage years you know 997 00:36:30,349 --> 00:36:29,099 all these studies that suggest that you 998 00:36:32,810 --> 00:36:30,359 know I was going through puberty like 999 00:36:34,430 --> 00:36:32,820 all these markers that we that have been 1000 00:36:36,470 --> 00:36:34,440 studied kind of exist and you're like 1001 00:36:38,329 --> 00:36:36,480 you know what maybe I didn't 1002 00:36:39,410 --> 00:36:38,339 and then it becomes a conversation of 1003 00:36:40,910 --> 00:36:39,420 like well why don't you try and move 1004 00:36:42,410 --> 00:36:40,920 them the next time you're feeling stress 1005 00:36:43,910 --> 00:36:42,420 and I've had some cases where people 1006 00:36:46,190 --> 00:36:43,920 come back and said you know what Ryan I 1007 00:36:47,930 --> 00:36:46,200 tried and I moved them what you got it 1008 00:36:49,550 --> 00:36:47,940 recorded and things like that I know of 1009 00:36:50,870 --> 00:36:49,560 course but you know I'm having 1010 00:36:52,609 --> 00:36:50,880 conversations like that so by 1011 00:36:54,950 --> 00:36:52,619 encouraging them to develop these 1012 00:36:56,930 --> 00:36:54,960 abilities 1013 00:36:58,849 --> 00:36:56,940 um it's it's not threatening because 1014 00:37:01,310 --> 00:36:58,859 it's it's spreading light 1015 00:37:04,730 --> 00:37:01,320 encouraging them to 1016 00:37:07,730 --> 00:37:04,740 um you know to do these healing things 1017 00:37:09,230 --> 00:37:07,740 and embrace the beings that they are so 1018 00:37:10,849 --> 00:37:09,240 that way they can help other people and 1019 00:37:11,870 --> 00:37:10,859 if they help other people love each 1020 00:37:14,210 --> 00:37:11,880 other 1021 00:37:17,329 --> 00:37:14,220 then there's less anger and there's less 1022 00:37:20,510 --> 00:37:17,339 fighting and if confirmation is going to 1023 00:37:23,329 --> 00:37:20,520 happen they need more of more loving 1024 00:37:25,609 --> 00:37:23,339 people to give this information to 1025 00:37:28,609 --> 00:37:25,619 when the pandemic happened they gave 1026 00:37:31,310 --> 00:37:28,619 information and they gave instructions 1027 00:37:34,490 --> 00:37:31,320 and we as a human race did not handle 1028 00:37:36,890 --> 00:37:34,500 that well we did what was the paper rush 1029 00:37:39,470 --> 00:37:36,900 we prior yeah we prioritize toilet paper 1030 00:37:41,450 --> 00:37:39,480 so so if that was an experiment or if 1031 00:37:43,370 --> 00:37:41,460 that was real or if that was like a 1032 00:37:47,870 --> 00:37:43,380 judgment on whether or not we can handle 1033 00:37:49,730 --> 00:37:47,880 aliens we failed mm-hmm so so so I 1034 00:37:52,430 --> 00:37:49,740 acknowledge and I accept all of these 1035 00:37:54,349 --> 00:37:52,440 possibilities my study shows me that 1036 00:37:56,210 --> 00:37:54,359 it's not a threat it's more focused on 1037 00:37:58,730 --> 00:37:56,220 the people we are the key and we are the 1038 00:37:59,990 --> 00:37:58,740 link so I'm focusing on the people for 1039 00:38:02,990 --> 00:38:00,000 the future 1040 00:38:05,510 --> 00:38:03,000 so that way we can be ready to help 1041 00:38:07,609 --> 00:38:05,520 those that might just realize that you 1042 00:38:10,550 --> 00:38:07,619 know their their mutants you know like 1043 00:38:12,250 --> 00:38:10,560 mutant x x y uh X-Men that kind of 1044 00:38:15,050 --> 00:38:12,260 scenario because 1045 00:38:17,630 --> 00:38:15,060 we want disclosure to happen I know some 1046 00:38:19,190 --> 00:38:17,640 people do but there's no one prepping at 1047 00:38:21,710 --> 00:38:19,200 least what I can see or at least anymore 1048 00:38:23,150 --> 00:38:21,720 for what to do afterwards My Generation 1049 00:38:25,310 --> 00:38:23,160 the Next Generation the children's 1050 00:38:27,230 --> 00:38:25,320 generation they're the ones that are 1051 00:38:28,609 --> 00:38:27,240 going to take this home 1052 00:38:31,430 --> 00:38:28,619 um it's not gonna be us 1053 00:38:34,010 --> 00:38:31,440 yeah what do you say to Skeptics and 1054 00:38:37,190 --> 00:38:34,020 people that are you know polarized 1055 00:38:39,650 --> 00:38:37,200 either straight up nuts and bolts UFO or 1056 00:38:41,030 --> 00:38:39,660 totally paranormal Fringe and those 1057 00:38:43,430 --> 00:38:41,040 people in the middle that say the two 1058 00:38:45,109 --> 00:38:43,440 don't exist in the same realm in fact I 1059 00:38:47,089 --> 00:38:45,119 had somebody on Facebook a few days ago 1060 00:38:49,010 --> 00:38:47,099 comment that and it was towards Preston 1061 00:38:51,170 --> 00:38:49,020 Dennett we had an episode with him and 1062 00:38:53,450 --> 00:38:51,180 he's written books on both paranormal 1063 00:38:55,609 --> 00:38:53,460 and ufology so it's a relevant topic to 1064 00:38:57,530 --> 00:38:55,619 ask them those questions and some people 1065 00:38:59,270 --> 00:38:57,540 had said you know he brought up a lot of 1066 00:39:00,530 --> 00:38:59,280 really Sensational experiences and 1067 00:39:02,089 --> 00:39:00,540 they're like why didn't you Hammer them 1068 00:39:04,430 --> 00:39:02,099 and say Hey where's the proof and this 1069 00:39:05,930 --> 00:39:04,440 and that and you know again that's not 1070 00:39:08,210 --> 00:39:05,940 our flavor of show we don't do that 1071 00:39:10,370 --> 00:39:08,220 anyway we believe totally and I think 1072 00:39:12,050 --> 00:39:10,380 myself personally said ever since 1073 00:39:13,490 --> 00:39:12,060 speaking to George Knapp when he's 1074 00:39:15,470 --> 00:39:13,500 describing you know the hitchhiker 1075 00:39:17,750 --> 00:39:15,480 effect from going to Skinwalker Ranch 1076 00:39:19,970 --> 00:39:17,760 and you know in nuts and bolts ufology 1077 00:39:21,829 --> 00:39:19,980 guy is now having weird Poltergeist 1078 00:39:24,290 --> 00:39:21,839 stuff happen at home and his wife and 1079 00:39:26,630 --> 00:39:24,300 even Colin Keller his partner and his 1080 00:39:28,310 --> 00:39:26,640 wife and all the rest so I'm more open 1081 00:39:31,069 --> 00:39:28,320 to it but we're also in the field we're 1082 00:39:32,569 --> 00:39:31,079 talking experts every week and we're and 1083 00:39:34,550 --> 00:39:32,579 on the front line of this stuff but 1084 00:39:36,710 --> 00:39:34,560 there's still a generation of ufologists 1085 00:39:39,050 --> 00:39:36,720 that want to believe that don't see the 1086 00:39:40,849 --> 00:39:39,060 intersect and do you think there's a 1087 00:39:42,770 --> 00:39:40,859 disconnect there or is that just our own 1088 00:39:45,109 --> 00:39:42,780 bias you know what and I myself included 1089 00:39:47,630 --> 00:39:45,119 I was like that uh in the beginning I 1090 00:39:49,790 --> 00:39:47,640 think first time we had Ryan on I was 1091 00:39:51,530 --> 00:39:49,800 still on the fence I was not convinced 1092 00:39:53,810 --> 00:39:51,540 that this stuff happens and I'm more 1093 00:39:56,569 --> 00:39:53,820 convinced so 1094 00:39:58,490 --> 00:39:56,579 yeah it I mean it's 1095 00:40:02,510 --> 00:39:58,500 okay there's a lot to do to break down 1096 00:40:06,109 --> 00:40:02,520 there so so it either all exists or none 1097 00:40:09,410 --> 00:40:06,119 of it exists I agree okay so so if none 1098 00:40:11,150 --> 00:40:09,420 of it exists then we just have this 1099 00:40:13,190 --> 00:40:11,160 fantasy and this is the hope that we 1100 00:40:14,630 --> 00:40:13,200 want to we've created this religion 1101 00:40:18,470 --> 00:40:14,640 we've created to know that there's life 1102 00:40:20,150 --> 00:40:18,480 after there so we have a a a reason to 1103 00:40:22,609 --> 00:40:20,160 be slaves to the government and pay our 1104 00:40:24,770 --> 00:40:22,619 taxes you know there's this hope or so 1105 00:40:26,630 --> 00:40:24,780 death isn't so scary you know also death 1106 00:40:28,490 --> 00:40:26,640 isn't so scary so so yeah exactly 1107 00:40:31,010 --> 00:40:28,500 there's got to be a purpose for it if it 1108 00:40:33,290 --> 00:40:31,020 does exist then therefore what we're 1109 00:40:34,550 --> 00:40:33,300 doing is we're a reason to help a higher 1110 00:40:37,849 --> 00:40:34,560 power for something else for whatever 1111 00:40:41,630 --> 00:40:37,859 reason so either way there's purpose 1112 00:40:43,790 --> 00:40:41,640 um so to be right wing and left wing or 1113 00:40:46,310 --> 00:40:43,800 one side or the other side and not be 1114 00:40:47,810 --> 00:40:46,320 able to tether there's there's there's a 1115 00:40:49,670 --> 00:40:47,820 there's personality in that there's 1116 00:40:51,050 --> 00:40:49,680 culture in that there's there's hard 1117 00:40:53,030 --> 00:40:51,060 beliefs 1118 00:40:54,290 --> 00:40:53,040 um there's economic motivation behind 1119 00:40:56,270 --> 00:40:54,300 that 1120 00:40:58,490 --> 00:40:56,280 um so so if you're a science guy you 1121 00:40:59,930 --> 00:40:58,500 can't talk to talk about these taboo 1122 00:41:00,710 --> 00:40:59,940 stuff because you literally you lose 1123 00:41:04,550 --> 00:41:00,720 your 1124 00:41:06,109 --> 00:41:04,560 like that so A lot of people are 1125 00:41:08,270 --> 00:41:06,119 tight-lipped because they don't want to 1126 00:41:10,430 --> 00:41:08,280 lose their Academia and all these other 1127 00:41:11,589 --> 00:41:10,440 alumni others associations and things 1128 00:41:15,170 --> 00:41:11,599 like that too 1129 00:41:18,170 --> 00:41:15,180 paranormal side I mean they dream to be 1130 00:41:19,730 --> 00:41:18,180 honored as an academic but they can't be 1131 00:41:21,770 --> 00:41:19,740 welcomed into that because they're 1132 00:41:23,930 --> 00:41:21,780 ridiculed with people from like Ghost 1133 00:41:26,810 --> 00:41:23,940 Adventures that think that you can wear 1134 00:41:28,910 --> 00:41:26,820 tight shirts and and and scare the ghost 1135 00:41:30,890 --> 00:41:28,920 in weights you know and as a risk 1136 00:41:32,569 --> 00:41:30,900 analysis you know the worst thing that I 1137 00:41:34,550 --> 00:41:32,579 would the last thing I would do is 1138 00:41:37,849 --> 00:41:34,560 entice anything 1139 00:41:40,430 --> 00:41:37,859 without knowing its true capability and 1140 00:41:42,410 --> 00:41:40,440 if you're you know yelling at an unseen 1141 00:41:44,569 --> 00:41:42,420 force in the middle of a dark area by 1142 00:41:46,609 --> 00:41:44,579 yourself and this this entity does exist 1143 00:41:48,349 --> 00:41:46,619 you're going to lose so Stephen Hawking 1144 00:41:49,910 --> 00:41:48,359 said that I think we shouldn't be out 1145 00:41:51,710 --> 00:41:49,920 there shouting in the universe because 1146 00:41:54,109 --> 00:41:51,720 we don't know what's out there and what 1147 00:41:56,450 --> 00:41:54,119 might happen could be nasty so another 1148 00:41:59,150 --> 00:41:56,460 interesting parallel to help you guys 1149 00:42:00,589 --> 00:41:59,160 understand where I'm at like I said it 1150 00:42:03,170 --> 00:42:00,599 all exists and the reason why it all 1151 00:42:05,569 --> 00:42:03,180 exists is because the people exist the 1152 00:42:08,030 --> 00:42:05,579 people are experiencing phenomenon 1153 00:42:10,010 --> 00:42:08,040 what's not being completely understood 1154 00:42:12,230 --> 00:42:10,020 on a whole because we're lack of answers 1155 00:42:14,810 --> 00:42:12,240 is what's the cause of the phenomenon 1156 00:42:16,790 --> 00:42:14,820 but but we are able to experience it so 1157 00:42:18,829 --> 00:42:16,800 we compare ourselves and what we do and 1158 00:42:21,230 --> 00:42:18,839 how we do then we can understand that we 1159 00:42:22,609 --> 00:42:21,240 have the ability to 1160 00:42:25,550 --> 00:42:22,619 um do these things like with the auras 1161 00:42:28,250 --> 00:42:25,560 uh um the energy healing with Reiki like 1162 00:42:31,370 --> 00:42:28,260 that's all human normal stuff but like 1163 00:42:33,829 --> 00:42:31,380 the when you get into propaganda and and 1164 00:42:35,510 --> 00:42:33,839 mainstream media and all these uh you 1165 00:42:36,589 --> 00:42:35,520 know subliminal messaging and stuff I 1166 00:42:38,810 --> 00:42:36,599 kind of feel like 1167 00:42:41,810 --> 00:42:38,820 paranormal and ufology were kind of 1168 00:42:44,329 --> 00:42:41,820 twins at Birth and then separated uh you 1169 00:42:46,970 --> 00:42:44,339 know in in terms of 1170 00:42:48,710 --> 00:42:46,980 um making fun of one which is actually 1171 00:42:51,230 --> 00:42:48,720 the truth 1172 00:42:53,450 --> 00:42:51,240 um and then now we're starting to focus 1173 00:42:55,550 --> 00:42:53,460 more on the science side 1174 00:42:58,190 --> 00:42:55,560 um you know to kind of have control of 1175 00:43:00,109 --> 00:42:58,200 that it's almost like you know if the in 1176 00:43:02,030 --> 00:43:00,119 the witch burning ages when the women 1177 00:43:04,250 --> 00:43:02,040 were more uh still are you know of 1178 00:43:07,010 --> 00:43:04,260 course but but then uh you know they 1179 00:43:09,470 --> 00:43:07,020 were afraid of of them because they they 1180 00:43:12,710 --> 00:43:09,480 had an understanding of science at a 1181 00:43:14,809 --> 00:43:12,720 greater level than uh than the mended at 1182 00:43:19,069 --> 00:43:14,819 that time so there's there's these fear 1183 00:43:22,430 --> 00:43:19,079 things going on so with the 1184 00:43:23,990 --> 00:43:22,440 let's look at the Ouija board as a 1185 00:43:28,190 --> 00:43:24,000 medium as a tool 1186 00:43:31,329 --> 00:43:28,200 and then we compare that to a ce5 which 1187 00:43:34,970 --> 00:43:31,339 is a um you know a meditation practice 1188 00:43:36,290 --> 00:43:34,980 uh that you would do to try and summon 1189 00:43:37,670 --> 00:43:36,300 UFOs 1190 00:43:40,130 --> 00:43:37,680 so 1191 00:43:43,490 --> 00:43:40,140 the ce5 movement would use a radio 1192 00:43:44,809 --> 00:43:43,500 signal a machine they would meditate and 1193 00:43:47,809 --> 00:43:44,819 then they would intentionally try to 1194 00:43:50,270 --> 00:43:47,819 make contact with extraterrestrials the 1195 00:43:52,130 --> 00:43:50,280 Seance is a board with letters and all 1196 00:43:54,770 --> 00:43:52,140 these other things on it they would set 1197 00:43:56,690 --> 00:43:54,780 the mood set candles meditate and try to 1198 00:43:58,069 --> 00:43:56,700 make a connection with 1199 00:44:00,710 --> 00:43:58,079 spirit 1200 00:44:02,450 --> 00:44:00,720 so the human is a constant in that 1201 00:44:03,890 --> 00:44:02,460 they're both meditating in that sense 1202 00:44:06,470 --> 00:44:03,900 and they're both putting intentional 1203 00:44:08,569 --> 00:44:06,480 thought out there and when you get that 1204 00:44:09,890 --> 00:44:08,579 response that immediate reaction we 1205 00:44:11,450 --> 00:44:09,900 don't we don't know if it's 1206 00:44:13,490 --> 00:44:11,460 extraterrestrial there's an assumption 1207 00:44:15,170 --> 00:44:13,500 and we don't know if it's ghost it's an 1208 00:44:17,569 --> 00:44:15,180 assumption but the other thing that 1209 00:44:19,510 --> 00:44:17,579 we're not taking into effect 1210 00:44:22,609 --> 00:44:19,520 is there's other people in that room 1211 00:44:24,829 --> 00:44:22,619 projecting thoughts so how do we know as 1212 00:44:26,569 --> 00:44:24,839 receivers of this information we're not 1213 00:44:29,089 --> 00:44:26,579 receiving a thought from some other 1214 00:44:31,190 --> 00:44:29,099 human being from somewhere else so if 1215 00:44:33,770 --> 00:44:31,200 I'm meditating right now and my goal is 1216 00:44:35,390 --> 00:44:33,780 to put energy out there in love out 1217 00:44:37,130 --> 00:44:35,400 there to say you know what so for all 1218 00:44:38,510 --> 00:44:37,140 the people that are having a bad day I'm 1219 00:44:39,829 --> 00:44:38,520 going to say this Mantra this is going 1220 00:44:41,750 --> 00:44:39,839 to be for everyone and then somewhere 1221 00:44:43,250 --> 00:44:41,760 else you guys are meditating in your 1222 00:44:45,589 --> 00:44:43,260 space or praying to your God because 1223 00:44:46,910 --> 00:44:45,599 you're having a bad day and you want an 1224 00:44:49,430 --> 00:44:46,920 answer and then all of a sudden you hear 1225 00:44:52,609 --> 00:44:49,440 my words of wisdom and you think it's 1226 00:44:54,710 --> 00:44:52,619 God but you don't know that but you hear 1227 00:44:57,109 --> 00:44:54,720 it you picked it up and you go on your 1228 00:44:58,970 --> 00:44:57,119 date so so there's there's if you 1229 00:45:02,089 --> 00:44:58,980 normalize it 1230 00:45:03,710 --> 00:45:02,099 it's not it's uh it's us it's basically 1231 00:45:05,809 --> 00:45:03,720 what I'm getting which makes which kind 1232 00:45:08,210 --> 00:45:05,819 of removes the Woo which doesn't make it 1233 00:45:10,190 --> 00:45:08,220 all fancy but the reason why 1234 00:45:12,349 --> 00:45:10,200 that's not all fancies because there's a 1235 00:45:14,890 --> 00:45:12,359 lot of people in this industry who are 1236 00:45:17,329 --> 00:45:14,900 making a lot of profit off of it yeah 1237 00:45:19,010 --> 00:45:17,339 and selling the threat narrative you 1238 00:45:20,390 --> 00:45:19,020 know if you're a military trained 1239 00:45:21,829 --> 00:45:20,400 through and through I like to say when 1240 00:45:23,329 --> 00:45:21,839 you're a hammer I think Stephen Greer 1241 00:45:24,890 --> 00:45:23,339 said it and I've kind of stole it but 1242 00:45:27,770 --> 00:45:24,900 when you're a hammer all you see are 1243 00:45:29,089 --> 00:45:27,780 nails so it would make sense that those 1244 00:45:30,950 --> 00:45:29,099 who were trained that way to be 1245 00:45:33,829 --> 00:45:30,960 constantly paranoid and for good reason 1246 00:45:36,470 --> 00:45:33,839 in war but in your day-to-day and social 1247 00:45:38,569 --> 00:45:36,480 interactions that's not necessarily the 1248 00:45:41,030 --> 00:45:38,579 best way to go about things right that 1249 00:45:42,950 --> 00:45:41,040 in itself is a limiting bias because 1250 00:45:45,950 --> 00:45:42,960 you're not necessarily as open to the 1251 00:45:47,930 --> 00:45:45,960 other side hence is this Paradigm where 1252 00:45:50,329 --> 00:45:47,940 we're all somewhere on this spectrum in 1253 00:45:52,250 --> 00:45:50,339 terms of our belief and we mentioned it 1254 00:45:53,450 --> 00:45:52,260 on Dave Scott show that they say you 1255 00:45:55,490 --> 00:45:53,460 should never discuss religion in 1256 00:45:57,770 --> 00:45:55,500 politics with your friends well this 1257 00:45:59,270 --> 00:45:57,780 topic delves into both of those terms 1258 00:46:01,609 --> 00:45:59,280 you know it has religious implications 1259 00:46:03,349 --> 00:46:01,619 and political ones especially if they've 1260 00:46:07,250 --> 00:46:03,359 been withholding things and are 1261 00:46:09,050 --> 00:46:07,260 continuing to do that so yeah and it's a 1262 00:46:11,390 --> 00:46:09,060 big rabbit hole and and who wants to 1263 00:46:13,490 --> 00:46:11,400 admit to that you know so like it's it's 1264 00:46:15,109 --> 00:46:13,500 it's the way it was I mean with our the 1265 00:46:16,309 --> 00:46:15,119 queen passing too things are going to 1266 00:46:19,010 --> 00:46:16,319 change with the King you know like 1267 00:46:21,230 --> 00:46:19,020 there's there's the world's in for a big 1268 00:46:23,150 --> 00:46:21,240 shift and and you know why not you know 1269 00:46:25,970 --> 00:46:23,160 this could be a different type of reset 1270 00:46:27,109 --> 00:46:25,980 but the world is resetting 1271 00:46:30,710 --> 00:46:27,119 um 1272 00:46:32,990 --> 00:46:30,720 yeah so like where I'm where my heart's 1273 00:46:35,210 --> 00:46:33,000 at though is is it's just trying to be 1274 00:46:37,609 --> 00:46:35,220 available and understanding 1275 00:46:41,809 --> 00:46:37,619 um to the experiencers because like my 1276 00:46:43,430 --> 00:46:41,819 job I have to like my career I need to 1277 00:46:45,530 --> 00:46:43,440 balance thoughts I need to balance 1278 00:46:47,390 --> 00:46:45,540 evidence and I need to cater to the 1279 00:46:50,270 --> 00:46:47,400 emotions of either party 1280 00:46:52,430 --> 00:46:50,280 so like uh if I'm dealing with a child 1281 00:46:53,630 --> 00:46:52,440 custody dispute you know both parents 1282 00:46:56,510 --> 00:46:53,640 are trying to prove the other parent 1283 00:46:58,309 --> 00:46:56,520 unfit but I you know but the things that 1284 00:47:00,230 --> 00:46:58,319 they do to prove the other parent unfit 1285 00:47:01,370 --> 00:47:00,240 isn't fair to the children so we've got 1286 00:47:02,510 --> 00:47:01,380 to think of the children it's what 1287 00:47:03,890 --> 00:47:02,520 matters for the children and then you 1288 00:47:05,210 --> 00:47:03,900 got to do the job get paid and do all 1289 00:47:07,010 --> 00:47:05,220 these other things hopefully that that 1290 00:47:09,290 --> 00:47:07,020 child has has a thing so these 1291 00:47:11,870 --> 00:47:09,300 experiences are the children you know 1292 00:47:13,849 --> 00:47:11,880 and and and and and the parents I guess 1293 00:47:15,349 --> 00:47:13,859 is is the you know mainstream media and 1294 00:47:16,910 --> 00:47:15,359 the government you know like all 1295 00:47:19,069 --> 00:47:16,920 fighting over truth and answers whatever 1296 00:47:23,150 --> 00:47:19,079 but like like who's who's taking care of 1297 00:47:24,170 --> 00:47:23,160 of her children because what happens you 1298 00:47:25,730 --> 00:47:24,180 know there's there's a lot all that 1299 00:47:27,550 --> 00:47:25,740 stuff needs to be taken into 1300 00:47:29,990 --> 00:47:27,560 consideration but there's 1301 00:47:32,870 --> 00:47:30,000 untreated having it untreated is 1302 00:47:35,210 --> 00:47:32,880 dangerous as well so if if the 1303 00:47:38,089 --> 00:47:35,220 phenomenon exists there are people that 1304 00:47:40,069 --> 00:47:38,099 are affected by PTSD anxiety and traumas 1305 00:47:42,109 --> 00:47:40,079 and things like that that should be 1306 00:47:44,750 --> 00:47:42,119 getting mental health support or a 1307 00:47:46,550 --> 00:47:44,760 mental health guidance meaning not don't 1308 00:47:48,170 --> 00:47:46,560 necessarily need to be medicated but 1309 00:47:51,109 --> 00:47:48,180 they need to at least be able to talk to 1310 00:47:52,790 --> 00:47:51,119 mental health professionals uh to rule 1311 00:47:54,589 --> 00:47:52,800 out a couple things is maybe they do 1312 00:47:55,970 --> 00:47:54,599 have schizophrenia maybe they do have 1313 00:47:58,309 --> 00:47:55,980 things like that but they might not even 1314 00:48:00,950 --> 00:47:58,319 be related to the event but maybe they 1315 00:48:04,309 --> 00:48:00,960 are psychic maybe they are special maybe 1316 00:48:05,530 --> 00:48:04,319 they are gifted you know um so I kind of 1317 00:48:10,130 --> 00:48:05,540 view 1318 00:48:12,290 --> 00:48:10,140 this community of experiencers as 1319 00:48:14,270 --> 00:48:12,300 like you know a group of people that are 1320 00:48:17,390 --> 00:48:14,280 experiencing a phenomenon that is 1321 00:48:19,309 --> 00:48:17,400 untreated and and and by treated I don't 1322 00:48:21,770 --> 00:48:19,319 mean it needs to be cured or it needs to 1323 00:48:23,809 --> 00:48:21,780 be fixed it just needs to be identified 1324 00:48:26,450 --> 00:48:23,819 and balanced so we can 1325 00:48:28,849 --> 00:48:26,460 stop being afraid of it 1326 00:48:31,970 --> 00:48:28,859 right I think Kevin day is a perfect 1327 00:48:33,290 --> 00:48:31,980 example of a guy who has PTSD as a 1328 00:48:35,329 --> 00:48:33,300 result of this you know he was involved 1329 00:48:37,309 --> 00:48:35,339 with the Tic Tac incident and you see 1330 00:48:39,470 --> 00:48:37,319 him on Caroline Corey's a tear in the 1331 00:48:41,450 --> 00:48:39,480 sky and he's noticeably shaking and 1332 00:48:43,550 --> 00:48:41,460 emotional about this now he doesn't have 1333 00:48:45,710 --> 00:48:43,560 PTSD from seeing his buddy get blown to 1334 00:48:47,870 --> 00:48:45,720 Pieces beside him it's from a UAP 1335 00:48:49,970 --> 00:48:47,880 experience or whatever paranormal 1336 00:48:52,490 --> 00:48:49,980 whatever you want to classify it as some 1337 00:48:53,990 --> 00:48:52,500 weird [\h__\h] happened and he was ridiculed 1338 00:48:56,510 --> 00:48:54,000 and everything else and that is 1339 00:48:59,329 --> 00:48:56,520 partially part of the PTSD was the after 1340 00:49:01,910 --> 00:48:59,339 effect but it's cause and effect and the 1341 00:49:04,069 --> 00:49:01,920 cause was one of these experiences and 1342 00:49:06,530 --> 00:49:04,079 it for some people that I maybe are 1343 00:49:08,630 --> 00:49:06,540 already borderline in that dealing with 1344 00:49:10,430 --> 00:49:08,640 other things as well this is enough to 1345 00:49:11,809 --> 00:49:10,440 really push him over the edge and good 1346 00:49:13,970 --> 00:49:11,819 on you for having a support group 1347 00:49:15,890 --> 00:49:13,980 because people need it they don't know 1348 00:49:18,530 --> 00:49:15,900 who to talk to and you don't want to be 1349 00:49:20,569 --> 00:49:18,540 made a fool of or look you know weak to 1350 00:49:23,390 --> 00:49:20,579 people or be vulnerable so they need 1351 00:49:24,309 --> 00:49:23,400 this type of support they do and we're 1352 00:49:27,109 --> 00:49:24,319 not 1353 00:49:29,450 --> 00:49:27,119 the only ones doing this type type of 1354 00:49:32,329 --> 00:49:29,460 philosophy 1355 00:49:33,650 --> 00:49:32,339 or if you will this type of there's a 1356 00:49:35,750 --> 00:49:33,660 lot of people trying to help 1357 00:49:39,170 --> 00:49:35,760 experiencers who understand this concept 1358 00:49:42,170 --> 00:49:39,180 what I'm trying to do is regulate it so 1359 00:49:43,970 --> 00:49:42,180 that way when I make referrals that I'm 1360 00:49:45,470 --> 00:49:43,980 referring them to actual people that 1361 00:49:47,710 --> 00:49:45,480 have the credentials that they claim 1362 00:49:50,870 --> 00:49:47,720 that they have because when you get into 1363 00:49:53,089 --> 00:49:50,880 pseudotherapy or pseudo um 1364 00:49:56,569 --> 00:49:53,099 uh yeah students therapy I think that's 1365 00:49:59,210 --> 00:49:56,579 fine with that like hypnosis and Reiki 1366 00:50:00,770 --> 00:49:59,220 um you know they have to make money off 1367 00:50:02,450 --> 00:50:00,780 of that but they're going to buy into 1368 00:50:04,490 --> 00:50:02,460 there are some people in this industry 1369 00:50:07,490 --> 00:50:04,500 that buy into the UFO Abduction 1370 00:50:09,230 --> 00:50:07,500 phenomenon and buy into uh the 1371 00:50:12,170 --> 00:50:09,240 possibility of them being abducted so 1372 00:50:15,109 --> 00:50:12,180 that way they can receive payment to do 1373 00:50:16,210 --> 00:50:15,119 their treatment on it but some of these 1374 00:50:18,349 --> 00:50:16,220 Hypno 1375 00:50:19,970 --> 00:50:18,359 hypnotherapists are re-victimizing 1376 00:50:21,050 --> 00:50:19,980 because they're not psychologists 1377 00:50:23,030 --> 00:50:21,060 they're not doing all these other things 1378 00:50:26,450 --> 00:50:23,040 not the proper mental health so there's 1379 00:50:27,890 --> 00:50:26,460 there are supports out there that I can 1380 00:50:30,349 --> 00:50:27,900 refer these people to but they're not 1381 00:50:32,750 --> 00:50:30,359 good enough so I want better supports 1382 00:50:34,849 --> 00:50:32,760 for these people and when I find more 1383 00:50:36,170 --> 00:50:34,859 regulated data I added to the website to 1384 00:50:39,109 --> 00:50:36,180 be free and things like that of course 1385 00:50:42,710 --> 00:50:39,119 too but I I can only 1386 00:50:46,430 --> 00:50:42,720 like my role is like 1387 00:50:48,349 --> 00:50:46,440 how do I I need experts okay so like I I 1388 00:50:50,750 --> 00:50:48,359 I'm a jack of all trades master of none 1389 00:50:52,609 --> 00:50:50,760 but I don't I need a team of experts in 1390 00:50:53,870 --> 00:50:52,619 which I can take all this samples and 1391 00:50:55,849 --> 00:50:53,880 all the study and all these people that 1392 00:50:57,770 --> 00:50:55,859 are coming to me for answers and I need 1393 00:50:59,890 --> 00:50:57,780 to I need to 1394 00:51:02,750 --> 00:50:59,900 um refer them to people that I can trust 1395 00:51:04,670 --> 00:51:02,760 so another example that I could use for 1396 00:51:06,410 --> 00:51:04,680 that is if you go to a crime scene as a 1397 00:51:07,790 --> 00:51:06,420 police officer you don't know what to 1398 00:51:09,109 --> 00:51:07,800 cry I've seen but you identify as a 1399 00:51:11,630 --> 00:51:09,119 crime scene in the book and there's 1400 00:51:13,670 --> 00:51:11,640 blood everywhere you know enough in your 1401 00:51:15,470 --> 00:51:13,680 police training that that is forensic 1402 00:51:17,809 --> 00:51:15,480 evidence and that can't be touched and 1403 00:51:20,690 --> 00:51:17,819 it needs to stay that way until the 1404 00:51:23,569 --> 00:51:20,700 experts come and control the sample 1405 00:51:24,770 --> 00:51:23,579 right so so in here Garden scene talking 1406 00:51:26,390 --> 00:51:24,780 to Witnesses getting all this 1407 00:51:27,950 --> 00:51:26,400 information making my notes as the 1408 00:51:30,230 --> 00:51:27,960 police officer doing all those things 1409 00:51:32,030 --> 00:51:30,240 and then the forensic unit comes in 1410 00:51:33,470 --> 00:51:32,040 takes a sample and then we wait and 1411 00:51:35,690 --> 00:51:33,480 laugh comes back and tells me and I 1412 00:51:37,910 --> 00:51:35,700 match the blood then I need to rest so 1413 00:51:39,950 --> 00:51:37,920 I'm in that police officer kind of stage 1414 00:51:41,870 --> 00:51:39,960 but I don't have any 1415 00:51:43,849 --> 00:51:41,880 without having CSI 1416 00:51:46,130 --> 00:51:43,859 I don't have I have all these people 1417 00:51:48,470 --> 00:51:46,140 that I've spoken to have all these 1418 00:51:50,690 --> 00:51:48,480 people that need help I have I know all 1419 00:51:52,910 --> 00:51:50,700 the things that could help I could refer 1420 00:51:54,470 --> 00:51:52,920 them to but I don't have any experts and 1421 00:51:56,210 --> 00:51:54,480 the reason why I don't have any experts 1422 00:51:59,030 --> 00:51:56,220 is everyone's that have come my way when 1423 00:52:00,589 --> 00:51:59,040 I asked them to prove me that they have 1424 00:52:02,930 --> 00:52:00,599 the credentials that they claim that 1425 00:52:05,930 --> 00:52:02,940 they have they don't have them 1426 00:52:07,790 --> 00:52:05,940 and I can't in good faith refer someone 1427 00:52:10,549 --> 00:52:07,800 to someone who's not licensed or 1428 00:52:13,130 --> 00:52:10,559 practiced in that practice to treat the 1429 00:52:14,450 --> 00:52:13,140 experiencer with anything I'm not going 1430 00:52:17,450 --> 00:52:14,460 to send them to a doctor who doesn't 1431 00:52:20,150 --> 00:52:17,460 have a you know a license to practice so 1432 00:52:21,710 --> 00:52:20,160 so that's what I'm trying to also do is 1433 00:52:23,510 --> 00:52:21,720 find people that do have these 1434 00:52:25,670 --> 00:52:23,520 credentials that are able to break that 1435 00:52:27,410 --> 00:52:25,680 stigma and and maybe are self-employed 1436 00:52:31,730 --> 00:52:27,420 like myself when there's no one can fire 1437 00:52:33,650 --> 00:52:31,740 me you know uh and I can be free and say 1438 00:52:35,270 --> 00:52:33,660 whatever I want and practice that and 1439 00:52:37,910 --> 00:52:35,280 then and then create these resources for 1440 00:52:40,010 --> 00:52:37,920 these people because and if it's not my 1441 00:52:42,829 --> 00:52:40,020 job to prove that aliens exist or if 1442 00:52:45,230 --> 00:52:42,839 ghost exists it's just a it's to treat 1443 00:52:47,710 --> 00:52:45,240 the anxieties as it is because once I 1444 00:52:50,870 --> 00:52:47,720 de-escalate and I get another report 1445 00:52:51,950 --> 00:52:50,880 they either rationalize it as something 1446 00:52:54,790 --> 00:52:51,960 logical 1447 00:52:57,710 --> 00:52:54,800 we move on or they give me information 1448 00:52:59,329 --> 00:52:57,720 that gives me closer to identifying what 1449 00:53:01,490 --> 00:52:59,339 it may or may not be in a kind of narrow 1450 00:53:03,230 --> 00:53:01,500 it all down and remove uh remove the 1451 00:53:04,670 --> 00:53:03,240 trauma right and they have a better 1452 00:53:06,589 --> 00:53:04,680 understanding of what it is that I'm 1453 00:53:08,150 --> 00:53:06,599 looking at and then even when I do all 1454 00:53:10,250 --> 00:53:08,160 that roll all these things out and 1455 00:53:11,809 --> 00:53:10,260 compound it you do a comparing contrast 1456 00:53:14,030 --> 00:53:11,819 I'm still luck with things that these 1457 00:53:15,530 --> 00:53:14,040 people are seeing and observing that 1458 00:53:17,270 --> 00:53:15,540 don't make sense they're not 1459 00:53:20,150 --> 00:53:17,280 biologically sent out so there is 1460 00:53:22,430 --> 00:53:20,160 evidence of something existing but it 1461 00:53:24,410 --> 00:53:22,440 just in it's in this space 1462 00:53:26,150 --> 00:53:24,420 that at least with a crime scene you 1463 00:53:28,549 --> 00:53:26,160 have the physical blood you can visually 1464 00:53:30,650 --> 00:53:28,559 see it you're investigating things that 1465 00:53:33,230 --> 00:53:30,660 are in people's minds their thoughts 1466 00:53:35,630 --> 00:53:33,240 they're they're either super you know 1467 00:53:37,849 --> 00:53:35,640 elevated in terms of receiving or in 1468 00:53:40,750 --> 00:53:37,859 terms of sending so that's a hard thing 1469 00:53:43,630 --> 00:53:40,760 to quantify I mean that's the main thing 1470 00:53:47,030 --> 00:53:43,640 Twitter how do you quantify 1471 00:53:51,530 --> 00:53:47,040 UFO Twitter is a disease but oh it's fun 1472 00:53:54,230 --> 00:53:51,540 well said I I so anyone who listens uh I 1473 00:53:56,630 --> 00:53:54,240 always say this uh as a preface I'm on 1474 00:53:58,670 --> 00:53:56,640 UFO Twitter to work I'm not I'm on 1475 00:54:02,089 --> 00:53:58,680 Facebook to play so you want to have fun 1476 00:54:04,010 --> 00:54:02,099 come to Facebook you want to have a you 1477 00:54:06,049 --> 00:54:04,020 want to have a bad time troll me on 1478 00:54:07,370 --> 00:54:06,059 Twitter speaking of which where can 1479 00:54:08,930 --> 00:54:07,380 people find you if they want to get 1480 00:54:12,069 --> 00:54:08,940 involved with your organization or learn 1481 00:54:14,690 --> 00:54:12,079 more where can they find your uh yeah so 1482 00:54:15,770 --> 00:54:14,700 you can find everything that I do on the 1483 00:54:18,349 --> 00:54:15,780 Tesla website so it's 1484 00:54:20,150 --> 00:54:18,359 experienceyoursupport.org 1485 00:54:21,650 --> 00:54:20,160 um that's where my research is my 1486 00:54:23,150 --> 00:54:21,660 investigations and all that other stuff 1487 00:54:24,950 --> 00:54:23,160 as well as some program items that we 1488 00:54:26,870 --> 00:54:24,960 have if you want to follow me as an 1489 00:54:29,809 --> 00:54:26,880 individual I'm on Facebook I hate the 1490 00:54:32,450 --> 00:54:29,819 world and on Twitter see the world RS 1491 00:54:34,309 --> 00:54:32,460 underscore RS I'm all over the place but 1492 00:54:35,870 --> 00:54:34,319 trying that Tick Tock thing that don't 1493 00:54:37,849 --> 00:54:35,880 work it'll work well I'm not one of 1494 00:54:39,890 --> 00:54:37,859 those guys it's hard to get a hold of 1495 00:54:41,870 --> 00:54:39,900 like just the hang of the whole thing 1496 00:54:44,030 --> 00:54:41,880 and well I can't make fun of it it's not 1497 00:54:46,190 --> 00:54:44,040 it's not a game it kind of it's serious 1498 00:54:48,109 --> 00:54:46,200 this is people are getting uh there's 1499 00:54:49,430 --> 00:54:48,119 something serious going on yeah and 1500 00:54:51,770 --> 00:54:49,440 you're not gonna do a shuffle dance with 1501 00:54:54,650 --> 00:54:51,780 an alien standing beside you no it's no 1502 00:54:56,930 --> 00:54:54,660 it's not and that's not my style 1503 00:54:58,970 --> 00:54:56,940 um and I'm taking this as a criminal 1504 00:55:01,870 --> 00:54:58,980 approach right and it's the same thing I 1505 00:55:04,010 --> 00:55:01,880 do every day whether I'm investigating a 1506 00:55:07,490 --> 00:55:04,020 infidelity like cheating husband or 1507 00:55:09,710 --> 00:55:07,500 spouse or wife or me uh Missing Children 1508 00:55:11,329 --> 00:55:09,720 I do that too whatever I'm trying to 1509 00:55:13,069 --> 00:55:11,339 trying to figure out the investigating 1510 00:55:15,290 --> 00:55:13,079 process is the same and I'm trying to 1511 00:55:17,569 --> 00:55:15,300 find the person or persons that are 1512 00:55:19,609 --> 00:55:17,579 responsible so that's why it's so easy 1513 00:55:22,450 --> 00:55:19,619 for me to find all this information to 1514 00:55:25,190 --> 00:55:22,460 to land into this human element to know 1515 00:55:26,390 --> 00:55:25,200 and trust that okay that it's not 1516 00:55:28,549 --> 00:55:26,400 something 1517 00:55:30,770 --> 00:55:28,559 that the whole world is going to lose 1518 00:55:32,569 --> 00:55:30,780 its mind over so now we can kind of dial 1519 00:55:34,370 --> 00:55:32,579 in and focus in on these people and be 1520 00:55:35,210 --> 00:55:34,380 like and reassure them that I don't 1521 00:55:37,010 --> 00:55:35,220 think 1522 00:55:39,290 --> 00:55:37,020 uh but perhaps you're able to see 1523 00:55:40,849 --> 00:55:39,300 another space in time maybe they're able 1524 00:55:43,370 --> 00:55:40,859 to see the future maybe they're able to 1525 00:55:45,470 --> 00:55:43,380 see the patterns and it's not up to me 1526 00:55:47,150 --> 00:55:45,480 there's no way that anyone could tell 1527 00:55:48,890 --> 00:55:47,160 anybody 1528 00:55:50,450 --> 00:55:48,900 to control their thoughts or what they 1529 00:55:53,030 --> 00:55:50,460 oh how their dreams were give or like 1530 00:55:54,470 --> 00:55:53,040 have a dream and wonder you know where 1531 00:55:55,849 --> 00:55:54,480 the hell that came from like where does 1532 00:55:58,370 --> 00:55:55,859 that stuff come from like there's no way 1533 00:56:01,069 --> 00:55:58,380 to regulate that but the people 1534 00:56:02,329 --> 00:56:01,079 if it leads to people to do good then I 1535 00:56:05,450 --> 00:56:02,339 want to encourage them to do more of 1536 00:56:07,250 --> 00:56:05,460 that what I don't want to see is the 1537 00:56:08,870 --> 00:56:07,260 fear and the panic and anxiety from them 1538 00:56:10,309 --> 00:56:08,880 thinking that they're being abducted or 1539 00:56:13,190 --> 00:56:10,319 they're being harmed or they're being 1540 00:56:15,230 --> 00:56:13,200 taken and if these things do happen I 1541 00:56:17,270 --> 00:56:15,240 kind of want them I want to kind of have 1542 00:56:19,250 --> 00:56:17,280 them believe that it's a dream if it's 1543 00:56:21,290 --> 00:56:19,260 possible but if it's if they think it's 1544 00:56:22,609 --> 00:56:21,300 not a dream it's a reality and all these 1545 00:56:25,130 --> 00:56:22,619 things happen 1546 00:56:26,990 --> 00:56:25,140 can't argue that so then that's when you 1547 00:56:28,490 --> 00:56:27,000 just continue to have these they 1548 00:56:30,710 --> 00:56:28,500 continue to report and they continue to 1549 00:56:32,630 --> 00:56:30,720 provide images and things like that 1550 00:56:34,670 --> 00:56:32,640 they're 1551 00:56:38,329 --> 00:56:34,680 a lot of her people are seeing the same 1552 00:56:42,470 --> 00:56:40,549 shared phenomenon 1553 00:56:44,450 --> 00:56:42,480 that's where I need experts like ballet 1554 00:56:46,309 --> 00:56:44,460 and all these other people to kind of 1555 00:56:48,650 --> 00:56:46,319 say like yeah this this is what that 1556 00:56:50,930 --> 00:56:48,660 means this is what that means you know 1557 00:56:53,150 --> 00:56:50,940 parapsychology is kind of kind of in my 1558 00:56:54,589 --> 00:56:53,160 alley too most people understand the 1559 00:56:58,069 --> 00:56:54,599 human element 1560 00:57:01,809 --> 00:56:58,079 but it's it it's it is connected to UFOs 1561 00:57:04,250 --> 00:57:01,819 because if if if the Paranormal people 1562 00:57:06,230 --> 00:57:04,260 can connect through Consciousness 1563 00:57:08,990 --> 00:57:06,240 there's remote viewing which uses 1564 00:57:11,690 --> 00:57:09,000 Consciousness to some degree to control 1565 00:57:14,630 --> 00:57:11,700 these UFOs or these drones or these UAP 1566 00:57:16,549 --> 00:57:14,640 we talked about that before Ryan uh on 1567 00:57:19,370 --> 00:57:16,559 the podcast a few times about how the 1568 00:57:21,109 --> 00:57:19,380 consciousness of these crafts the crafts 1569 00:57:23,930 --> 00:57:21,119 appear to be conscious like they they 1570 00:57:25,849 --> 00:57:23,940 can see all around they're able to fly 1571 00:57:27,290 --> 00:57:25,859 at the speed of thought because that's 1572 00:57:28,910 --> 00:57:27,300 literally the speed at which these 1573 00:57:30,950 --> 00:57:28,920 things take off is the speed of thought 1574 00:57:33,349 --> 00:57:30,960 at least the speed of my thoughts uh 1575 00:57:35,569 --> 00:57:33,359 maybe some people are faster but yeah we 1576 00:57:37,370 --> 00:57:35,579 we talked about that a bit even some um 1577 00:57:39,770 --> 00:57:37,380 alien abductions where some of the kids 1578 00:57:41,470 --> 00:57:39,780 were allowed to fly the crafts and that 1579 00:57:45,349 --> 00:57:41,480 the crafts 1580 00:57:47,390 --> 00:57:45,359 exactly it's it's not uh it's not old 1581 00:57:48,950 --> 00:57:47,400 it's old news it's it's just it's just 1582 00:57:51,770 --> 00:57:48,960 we don't have confirmation and that's 1583 00:57:54,290 --> 00:57:51,780 the way that it is we have documentation 1584 00:57:56,210 --> 00:57:54,300 that shows they were studying it we have 1585 00:57:58,849 --> 00:57:56,220 a documentation that they were trying 1586 00:58:01,069 --> 00:57:58,859 they were aware of sausage technology 1587 00:58:02,930 --> 00:58:01,079 and then we're perhaps trying to reverse 1588 00:58:04,370 --> 00:58:02,940 engineer it and all these other things 1589 00:58:07,069 --> 00:58:04,380 we have evidence of all these things 1590 00:58:09,349 --> 00:58:07,079 taking place what's missing is the 1591 00:58:11,150 --> 00:58:09,359 silence that when the day they decided 1592 00:58:12,349 --> 00:58:11,160 you know we're not we're keeping this 1593 00:58:14,329 --> 00:58:12,359 quiet 1594 00:58:15,950 --> 00:58:14,339 you know all these years and whether or 1595 00:58:19,910 --> 00:58:15,960 not they continue to work on these 1596 00:58:22,250 --> 00:58:19,920 projects in in silence and now we are 1597 00:58:23,750 --> 00:58:22,260 getting to an age where everyone has a 1598 00:58:25,370 --> 00:58:23,760 cell phone everyone can take pictures 1599 00:58:28,970 --> 00:58:25,380 everyone can do all these other things 1600 00:58:32,210 --> 00:58:30,470 um and eventually is going to get to a 1601 00:58:33,530 --> 00:58:32,220 point that if it does exist someone's 1602 00:58:36,650 --> 00:58:33,540 going to catch something 1603 00:58:38,569 --> 00:58:36,660 yeah and then and to your point about 1604 00:58:40,430 --> 00:58:38,579 you know ESP and people who can do 1605 00:58:43,069 --> 00:58:40,440 remote viewing and all that I like to 1606 00:58:46,010 --> 00:58:43,079 think of it as we are not human beings 1607 00:58:47,870 --> 00:58:46,020 having spiritual experiences We Are 1608 00:58:50,089 --> 00:58:47,880 Spiritual Beings having a human 1609 00:58:52,730 --> 00:58:50,099 experience and when you look at it that 1610 00:58:55,250 --> 00:58:52,740 way the idea of inter travel and all the 1611 00:58:57,710 --> 00:58:55,260 rest is not so crazy because we can 1612 00:59:00,230 --> 00:58:57,720 become transmedium and I mean even the 1613 00:59:02,450 --> 00:59:00,240 art of meditation is to access or 1614 00:59:05,329 --> 00:59:02,460 download from that main Consciousness 1615 00:59:07,490 --> 00:59:05,339 right so this is a temporary phase and I 1616 00:59:09,710 --> 00:59:07,500 think that fits within religion too that 1617 00:59:11,089 --> 00:59:09,720 says there was a before you there's your 1618 00:59:13,309 --> 00:59:11,099 life but then there's going to be an 1619 00:59:15,109 --> 00:59:13,319 afterlife somehow and whether that's 1620 00:59:17,270 --> 00:59:15,119 just in a reassuring sense or whether 1621 00:59:19,309 --> 00:59:17,280 it's actually true we don't know but it 1622 00:59:21,890 --> 00:59:19,319 makes more sense to me if we are indeed 1623 00:59:23,630 --> 00:59:21,900 Spiritual Beings that have the potential 1624 00:59:26,210 --> 00:59:23,640 of multiple lives or no been No 1625 00:59:29,210 --> 00:59:26,220 Beginning No End if we are that seed of 1626 00:59:31,670 --> 00:59:29,220 creation we don't expire our bodies may 1627 00:59:33,470 --> 00:59:31,680 but you know that spark that's within 1628 00:59:35,270 --> 00:59:33,480 everything and in life itself it never 1629 00:59:38,210 --> 00:59:35,280 goes away this is just a human 1630 00:59:40,609 --> 00:59:38,220 experience for a spiritual body and the 1631 00:59:41,450 --> 00:59:40,619 people are the body and becoming the 1632 00:59:43,250 --> 00:59:41,460 evidence 1633 00:59:46,190 --> 00:59:43,260 but so are the entities as well sorry 1634 00:59:48,829 --> 00:59:46,200 Ryan uh yeah just because some of the 1635 00:59:51,109 --> 00:59:48,839 entities as well they can't you know 1636 00:59:52,970 --> 00:59:51,119 they express the Consciousness is the 1637 00:59:54,349 --> 00:59:52,980 same that you know when somebody looks 1638 00:59:56,750 --> 00:59:54,359 at a gray and the gray says you and I 1639 00:59:59,450 --> 00:59:56,760 are the same whatever what are they 1640 01:00:01,549 --> 00:59:59,460 referring to right physically we're not 1641 01:00:03,349 --> 01:00:01,559 the same at all but consciously we might 1642 01:00:06,349 --> 01:00:03,359 all be the same there might be some sort 1643 01:00:08,510 --> 01:00:06,359 of Galactic Consciousness that every 1644 01:00:10,849 --> 01:00:08,520 species becomes aware of and we become a 1645 01:00:12,349 --> 01:00:10,859 collective who knows or they're them or 1646 01:00:14,329 --> 01:00:12,359 they're us in the future if you didn't 1647 01:00:16,309 --> 01:00:14,339 look at Michael okay we got to look at 1648 01:00:18,470 --> 01:00:16,319 the Timeline we either coexist or or 1649 01:00:20,569 --> 01:00:18,480 pre-exist or future and pro-exist 1650 01:00:22,150 --> 01:00:20,579 whatever that would be 1651 01:00:25,670 --> 01:00:22,160 um 1652 01:00:28,490 --> 01:00:25,680 the first degree in masonry working 1653 01:00:30,230 --> 01:00:28,500 tools part of that lecture says the the 1654 01:00:31,910 --> 01:00:30,240 root material receives its fine finish 1655 01:00:34,730 --> 01:00:31,920 from repeated efforts alone and nothing 1656 01:00:36,049 --> 01:00:34,740 short and difficult exertion so induced 1657 01:00:38,809 --> 01:00:36,059 to habit of virtue and lighten the mind 1658 01:00:41,569 --> 01:00:38,819 and render the soul cure that line is 1659 01:00:44,510 --> 01:00:41,579 speaking about Consciousness and and so 1660 01:00:46,910 --> 01:00:44,520 so like the there is a lot of 1661 01:00:47,569 --> 01:00:46,920 Consciousness discussion 1662 01:00:49,609 --> 01:00:47,579 um 1663 01:00:52,789 --> 01:00:49,619 if you were to look at the at the 1664 01:00:54,289 --> 01:00:52,799 rituals and amazingly so and I just kind 1665 01:00:56,569 --> 01:00:54,299 of want to put that out there to kind of 1666 01:00:59,150 --> 01:00:56,579 show give evidence to an ancient 1667 01:01:02,589 --> 01:00:59,160 tradition that has existed for a long 1668 01:01:06,049 --> 01:01:02,599 time so this knowledge has been known 1669 01:01:08,270 --> 01:01:06,059 and it got to a point where they didn't 1670 01:01:10,970 --> 01:01:08,280 want us to know this anymore 1671 01:01:13,730 --> 01:01:10,980 and now we're getting to the point where 1672 01:01:17,210 --> 01:01:13,740 we're evolving and we're we don't know 1673 01:01:18,770 --> 01:01:17,220 what's going on we can't control it and 1674 01:01:22,309 --> 01:01:18,780 it's like we're going through puberty 1675 01:01:23,870 --> 01:01:22,319 but as a social yeah I want to touch on 1676 01:01:26,270 --> 01:01:23,880 your your working tools lecture because 1677 01:01:28,849 --> 01:01:26,280 I'm also a Freemason and to the point of 1678 01:01:30,829 --> 01:01:28,859 you know imagine taking a block in rude 1679 01:01:33,530 --> 01:01:30,839 form and making it straight and whatever 1680 01:01:36,170 --> 01:01:33,540 you have the hammer and the Chisel so if 1681 01:01:38,870 --> 01:01:36,180 the establishment is the hammer it is 1682 01:01:42,049 --> 01:01:38,880 nothing without that indefiable or into 1683 01:01:43,789 --> 01:01:42,059 fatigable effort of that chisel you 1684 01:01:47,930 --> 01:01:43,799 cannot take a hammer and make something 1685 01:01:49,910 --> 01:01:47,940 precise it is rude and unrefined whereas 1686 01:01:52,309 --> 01:01:49,920 the Chisel is where you put on you find 1687 01:01:54,410 --> 01:01:52,319 out you need them both we are the 1688 01:01:56,150 --> 01:01:54,420 chisels of ufology people that's right 1689 01:01:58,609 --> 01:01:56,160 so you understand that little Cryptid 1690 01:02:00,109 --> 01:01:58,619 they're at borderline whether it was 1691 01:02:01,549 --> 01:02:00,119 that's not really a secret that's just 1692 01:02:03,890 --> 01:02:01,559 just that's just a passage nothing you 1693 01:02:05,390 --> 01:02:03,900 can't find on Google at this point but I 1694 01:02:07,970 --> 01:02:05,400 mean the point is 1695 01:02:11,390 --> 01:02:07,980 uh everybody knows this or everybody 1696 01:02:13,670 --> 01:02:11,400 knew this and then they stopped 1697 01:02:15,770 --> 01:02:13,680 telling us that but then it's by 1698 01:02:17,210 --> 01:02:15,780 stopping I mean it was replaced with 1699 01:02:19,670 --> 01:02:17,220 Christianity 1700 01:02:21,109 --> 01:02:19,680 I guess for Catholicism and there's 1701 01:02:22,910 --> 01:02:21,119 still the Holy Trinity which is 1702 01:02:26,030 --> 01:02:22,920 consciousness too so Consciousness is 1703 01:02:28,670 --> 01:02:26,040 present in in a lot of things and it's 1704 01:02:30,530 --> 01:02:28,680 overlooked in mainstream media so I 1705 01:02:34,010 --> 01:02:30,540 don't care too much about the UFOs and 1706 01:02:37,190 --> 01:02:34,020 the uaps because like that is not uh 1707 01:02:41,690 --> 01:02:37,200 that is like that's man's problem you 1708 01:02:43,849 --> 01:02:41,700 know man wants to uh be man you know and 1709 01:02:45,589 --> 01:02:43,859 and they want to put the you know a 1710 01:02:48,770 --> 01:02:45,599 spaceship on the moon and they can't 1711 01:02:50,630 --> 01:02:48,780 even do that again but you know it seems 1712 01:02:53,089 --> 01:02:50,640 like we're having a rough time doing 1713 01:02:54,589 --> 01:02:53,099 that yeah yeah so let's put before 1714 01:02:56,329 --> 01:02:54,599 putting the cart before the horse I 1715 01:02:58,910 --> 01:02:56,339 guess in that sense but like 1716 01:03:01,910 --> 01:02:58,920 you know that's a man's issue so the the 1717 01:03:04,089 --> 01:03:01,920 intellectual part the the the the magic 1718 01:03:07,970 --> 01:03:04,099 if you will all exist North mythology 1719 01:03:09,950 --> 01:03:07,980 witches like you know I mean it's a 1720 01:03:12,950 --> 01:03:09,960 positive a positive thing male and 1721 01:03:14,390 --> 01:03:12,960 female was never negative uh if you if 1722 01:03:16,130 --> 01:03:14,400 you have to go back and look at all the 1723 01:03:17,870 --> 01:03:16,140 things that we oppress that we had 1724 01:03:20,270 --> 01:03:17,880 oppressed that we're now all of a sudden 1725 01:03:22,730 --> 01:03:20,280 accepting where all the things that were 1726 01:03:25,069 --> 01:03:22,740 plentiful back in the day too you know 1727 01:03:28,609 --> 01:03:25,079 you know um you know all these things 1728 01:03:30,829 --> 01:03:28,619 like African-Americans females uh 1729 01:03:33,829 --> 01:03:30,839 homosexuality all those things like that 1730 01:03:36,230 --> 01:03:33,839 those were those were banned and but at 1731 01:03:38,809 --> 01:03:36,240 one point prior to now they were also 1732 01:03:40,370 --> 01:03:38,819 accepted and and there was and all these 1733 01:03:41,809 --> 01:03:40,380 things were common and the way that 1734 01:03:43,370 --> 01:03:41,819 people lived their life and that 1735 01:03:44,930 --> 01:03:43,380 spiritual and unconsciousness and that 1736 01:03:47,329 --> 01:03:44,940 magic all the things was there in 1737 01:03:48,890 --> 01:03:47,339 mythology if it was myth but if it was 1738 01:03:51,109 --> 01:03:48,900 reality 1739 01:03:52,910 --> 01:03:51,119 it was oppressed it was stopped so we 1740 01:03:56,210 --> 01:03:52,920 couldn't do that anymore so man could 1741 01:03:58,190 --> 01:03:56,220 take over I don't know but now we're 1742 01:04:01,190 --> 01:03:58,200 starting to take back and we're fighting 1743 01:04:02,930 --> 01:04:01,200 so so like there's there's 1744 01:04:06,289 --> 01:04:02,940 it's interesting the way that the human 1745 01:04:08,030 --> 01:04:06,299 is evolving what does that mean for the 1746 01:04:10,730 --> 01:04:08,040 rest of the world I don't know but I 1747 01:04:13,910 --> 01:04:10,740 just I just kind of feel with my efforts 1748 01:04:15,770 --> 01:04:13,920 if I focus on the people today 1749 01:04:18,710 --> 01:04:15,780 then the future will be better no matter 1750 01:04:21,530 --> 01:04:18,720 where we end up because if 1751 01:04:24,109 --> 01:04:21,540 if I'm wrong which I could very well be 1752 01:04:25,430 --> 01:04:24,119 and aliens do exist and UFOs do have an 1753 01:04:27,829 --> 01:04:25,440 extraterrestrial nature because that's 1754 01:04:29,450 --> 01:04:27,839 still a possibility 1755 01:04:32,750 --> 01:04:29,460 um I hope that a lot of people don't 1756 01:04:33,770 --> 01:04:32,760 like radar toilet paper as a response to 1757 01:04:36,170 --> 01:04:33,780 hearing that 1758 01:04:38,569 --> 01:04:36,180 yeah because you know 1759 01:04:41,750 --> 01:04:38,579 I take care of the people 1760 01:04:43,069 --> 01:04:41,760 but right Ryan in your experience have 1761 01:04:45,589 --> 01:04:43,079 you had some people that you're just 1762 01:04:48,049 --> 01:04:45,599 like there's no way that this is legit 1763 01:04:50,510 --> 01:04:48,059 like they're pulling your leg they're 1764 01:04:52,670 --> 01:04:50,520 not cooperating with you or their story 1765 01:04:54,530 --> 01:04:52,680 doesn't seem to be collaborating with 1766 01:04:56,450 --> 01:04:54,540 somebody else's like there's got to be 1767 01:05:00,589 --> 01:04:56,460 those cases that you get occasionally 1768 01:05:05,089 --> 01:05:00,599 that don't add up yeah so I mean that is 1769 01:05:07,970 --> 01:05:05,099 subjected to my uh my interpretation and 1770 01:05:10,130 --> 01:05:07,980 my own understanding of the of the of 1771 01:05:12,890 --> 01:05:10,140 what I'm trying to prove as well so like 1772 01:05:15,049 --> 01:05:12,900 I try to do statement analysis analysis 1773 01:05:17,990 --> 01:05:15,059 on everything as well 1774 01:05:20,150 --> 01:05:18,000 um I I try to take like the statement as 1775 01:05:21,770 --> 01:05:20,160 it is verbatim and then I summarize it 1776 01:05:23,210 --> 01:05:21,780 and then I try to add in all the things 1777 01:05:24,589 --> 01:05:23,220 that I need to have to come to the 1778 01:05:27,289 --> 01:05:24,599 conclusion and then I ask these 1779 01:05:29,450 --> 01:05:27,299 questions to the to the witnesses so 1780 01:05:31,549 --> 01:05:29,460 sometimes even with my phone yeah they 1781 01:05:32,510 --> 01:05:31,559 get a response so you don't right so if 1782 01:05:33,950 --> 01:05:32,520 you don't get a response it's 1783 01:05:35,150 --> 01:05:33,960 inconclusive because you don't you don't 1784 01:05:38,089 --> 01:05:35,160 have these answers you don't know why 1785 01:05:41,270 --> 01:05:38,099 they they did all these things so and to 1786 01:05:44,329 --> 01:05:41,280 it's everything is possible 1787 01:05:48,289 --> 01:05:44,339 um to some things that don't line up 1788 01:05:50,630 --> 01:05:48,299 might be like a day or two off of the uh 1789 01:05:53,690 --> 01:05:50,640 the date like it there has to be it has 1790 01:05:56,329 --> 01:05:53,700 to be reasonable right so if if someone 1791 01:05:57,890 --> 01:05:56,339 tells me that the date was this and they 1792 01:06:00,049 --> 01:05:57,900 send me the file and it was two days 1793 01:06:01,789 --> 01:06:00,059 before you know that doesn't mean 1794 01:06:03,470 --> 01:06:01,799 they're lying it was interesting or just 1795 01:06:05,390 --> 01:06:03,480 just remembering right but they did have 1796 01:06:07,309 --> 01:06:05,400 the evidence so that evidence kind of uh 1797 01:06:09,950 --> 01:06:07,319 reinforces the fact that the event could 1798 01:06:12,770 --> 01:06:09,960 occur right right so if there's lack of 1799 01:06:14,750 --> 01:06:12,780 evidence is hard so when they don't have 1800 01:06:16,130 --> 01:06:14,760 evidence so they can't take uh by 1801 01:06:18,589 --> 01:06:16,140 evidence and mean demonstrative evidence 1802 01:06:21,410 --> 01:06:18,599 so they can't take a photo or a video 1803 01:06:23,390 --> 01:06:21,420 and ask them to draw so if they're 1804 01:06:24,349 --> 01:06:23,400 drawing things and they're spending the 1805 01:06:26,329 --> 01:06:24,359 time 1806 01:06:27,589 --> 01:06:26,339 doing it 1807 01:06:30,650 --> 01:06:27,599 um they're answering my questions 1808 01:06:32,450 --> 01:06:30,660 they're going back and forth they're not 1809 01:06:34,010 --> 01:06:32,460 arguing with me I look I look kind of 1810 01:06:36,470 --> 01:06:34,020 look at it that way to see was their 1811 01:06:37,910 --> 01:06:36,480 participation level is 1812 01:06:39,230 --> 01:06:37,920 um and then from there I kind of 1813 01:06:41,990 --> 01:06:39,240 established a credibility of the 1814 01:06:43,849 --> 01:06:42,000 character whether I believe the scenario 1815 01:06:44,809 --> 01:06:43,859 to be true or not that's not up to me 1816 01:06:47,029 --> 01:06:44,819 because that's what I'm trying to figure 1817 01:06:48,470 --> 01:06:47,039 out what exactly is happening but I'm 1818 01:06:50,510 --> 01:06:48,480 understanding this report with the 1819 01:06:52,849 --> 01:06:50,520 experiencer that I know that if I need 1820 01:06:55,549 --> 01:06:52,859 to ask questions they'll answer them for 1821 01:06:58,069 --> 01:06:55,559 you know and and then if I rule out all 1822 01:07:00,230 --> 01:06:58,079 these things and investigate properly 1823 01:07:02,390 --> 01:07:00,240 then I should be at this this this 1824 01:07:03,650 --> 01:07:02,400 situation where I'm comfortable and I'm 1825 01:07:05,089 --> 01:07:03,660 confident that the experience should 1826 01:07:08,390 --> 01:07:05,099 believes what they believe and what they 1827 01:07:10,970 --> 01:07:08,400 think they know and they respect me 1828 01:07:12,650 --> 01:07:10,980 enough to challenge these beliefs and 1829 01:07:15,289 --> 01:07:12,660 this is where we end up together in the 1830 01:07:17,690 --> 01:07:15,299 middle because if I say it's this when 1831 01:07:19,130 --> 01:07:17,700 in with the same amount of proof or same 1832 01:07:21,650 --> 01:07:19,140 amount of evidence that's just my 1833 01:07:23,150 --> 01:07:21,660 interpretation that's my belief and that 1834 01:07:24,829 --> 01:07:23,160 person might accept it because they 1835 01:07:26,089 --> 01:07:24,839 think whatever they think of you in that 1836 01:07:27,589 --> 01:07:26,099 moment I might be the only person 1837 01:07:30,410 --> 01:07:27,599 they've ever talked to in this subject 1838 01:07:32,210 --> 01:07:30,420 you know or they might have talked to uh 1839 01:07:33,950 --> 01:07:32,220 you know valet before me I think I'm 1840 01:07:35,029 --> 01:07:33,960 just I'm out to lunch you know like 1841 01:07:36,710 --> 01:07:35,039 there's there's different perspectives 1842 01:07:38,990 --> 01:07:36,720 and whoever I'm talking to but I always 1843 01:07:41,390 --> 01:07:39,000 treat it as if I'm the only person that 1844 01:07:44,210 --> 01:07:41,400 they have and I need to make sure uh and 1845 01:07:47,990 --> 01:07:44,220 that we we come to a balanced thought so 1846 01:07:51,230 --> 01:07:48,000 when I do that process I never get a 1847 01:07:53,390 --> 01:07:51,240 feeling that they're being deceitful or 1848 01:07:55,789 --> 01:07:53,400 dishonest because they're putting a lot 1849 01:07:57,890 --> 01:07:55,799 of effort into that 1850 01:07:59,630 --> 01:07:57,900 um there's because at that point it's 1851 01:08:00,950 --> 01:07:59,640 private there's no monetary gain there's 1852 01:08:03,170 --> 01:08:00,960 nothing that they can get all those 1853 01:08:05,450 --> 01:08:03,180 rules are kind of defined and it's done 1854 01:08:07,670 --> 01:08:05,460 in an anonymous setting when some people 1855 01:08:09,650 --> 01:08:07,680 are kind of hoaxing it's kind of obvious 1856 01:08:11,390 --> 01:08:09,660 in the things but like if I send an 1857 01:08:13,150 --> 01:08:11,400 email out to them and I don't get a 1858 01:08:16,309 --> 01:08:13,160 response back and I don't get evidence 1859 01:08:18,289 --> 01:08:16,319 whether they're a crackpot or not or or 1860 01:08:19,550 --> 01:08:18,299 just simply out of touch or they don't 1861 01:08:20,749 --> 01:08:19,560 want to respond because they're afraid 1862 01:08:22,970 --> 01:08:20,759 and things like that that doesn't matter 1863 01:08:25,669 --> 01:08:22,980 I don't have evidence I can't do my job 1864 01:08:29,090 --> 01:08:25,679 that case is closed I'm focusing on 1865 01:08:31,450 --> 01:08:29,100 those that do connect less is more and 1866 01:08:34,249 --> 01:08:31,460 so I spend more time with less people 1867 01:08:35,930 --> 01:08:34,259 asking and and going back and forth and 1868 01:08:36,950 --> 01:08:35,940 studying and then comparing them to 1869 01:08:38,749 --> 01:08:36,960 others 1870 01:08:41,150 --> 01:08:38,759 I learned more about the phenomenon 1871 01:08:43,370 --> 01:08:41,160 through the people and have you found a 1872 01:08:46,130 --> 01:08:43,380 demographic like something you know 1873 01:08:48,709 --> 01:08:46,140 either so each group or a specific type 1874 01:08:51,349 --> 01:08:48,719 of person that gets taken so I'm working 1875 01:08:53,090 --> 01:08:51,359 on two reports right now I'm doing my 1876 01:08:56,269 --> 01:08:53,100 Canadian current event survey for the 1877 01:08:58,249 --> 01:08:56,279 year 2021 which is my drone and UFO 1878 01:09:00,349 --> 01:08:58,259 report for Canada 1879 01:09:02,809 --> 01:09:00,359 um I do that report for the for the 1880 01:09:04,249 --> 01:09:02,819 science that's both guys because to 1881 01:09:05,990 --> 01:09:04,259 remove the Paranormal forward but 1882 01:09:08,510 --> 01:09:06,000 basically all these UFO sightings that 1883 01:09:10,010 --> 01:09:08,520 you see me post for caters I get all the 1884 01:09:11,390 --> 01:09:10,020 premium information requests I do an 1885 01:09:13,490 --> 01:09:11,400 investigation with all the evidence and 1886 01:09:15,349 --> 01:09:13,500 then I try to I try to debunk all of 1887 01:09:16,970 --> 01:09:15,359 them try to prove that they're all like 1888 01:09:19,130 --> 01:09:16,980 normal things 1889 01:09:21,050 --> 01:09:19,140 um once that report's done the other 1890 01:09:25,010 --> 01:09:21,060 report that I'm doing is the experiencer 1891 01:09:27,590 --> 01:09:25,020 side which is the the civilian uh uaps 1892 01:09:29,269 --> 01:09:27,600 and UFO reports paranormal uh cryptic 1893 01:09:31,189 --> 01:09:29,279 beings all that other stuff all that fun 1894 01:09:32,749 --> 01:09:31,199 stuff if you will 1895 01:09:34,910 --> 01:09:32,759 um and that's actually I'm calling it 1896 01:09:39,050 --> 01:09:34,920 the pandemic Edition because it's going 1897 01:09:41,570 --> 01:09:39,060 to be year 2020 21 and 22. 1898 01:09:44,030 --> 01:09:41,580 9 19. it's going to be a four-year study 1899 01:09:45,530 --> 01:09:44,040 so that four years because I have to 1900 01:09:46,970 --> 01:09:45,540 play catch up and get all this data and 1901 01:09:48,289 --> 01:09:46,980 I was building a new website a little 1902 01:09:52,550 --> 01:09:48,299 bit of a pause but I'm going to have 1903 01:09:54,110 --> 01:09:52,560 four years of work so 200 plus cases of 1904 01:09:56,810 --> 01:09:54,120 experienced your data that'll be able to 1905 01:09:59,390 --> 01:09:56,820 show those demographics so 1906 01:10:02,209 --> 01:09:59,400 um I don't have the number dialed in but 1907 01:10:04,430 --> 01:10:02,219 from previous reports you know it's been 1908 01:10:08,570 --> 01:10:04,440 females have been common and it's been 1909 01:10:11,570 --> 01:10:08,580 within like the 30 to 40 age range 1910 01:10:14,630 --> 01:10:11,580 um it's believe it or not the blood type 1911 01:10:18,290 --> 01:10:14,640 is in a positive as a Common Thread not 1912 01:10:19,790 --> 01:10:18,300 the O Negative which is uh what we were 1913 01:10:21,050 --> 01:10:19,800 told at some point with the ancient 1914 01:10:22,490 --> 01:10:21,060 astronaut theory so like there's 1915 01:10:23,930 --> 01:10:22,500 different information that comes but 1916 01:10:26,030 --> 01:10:23,940 that's 1917 01:10:29,149 --> 01:10:26,040 when you see the studies also based on 1918 01:10:31,130 --> 01:10:29,159 my interpretation of of the data but 1919 01:10:34,010 --> 01:10:31,140 it's also trusting that the people are 1920 01:10:37,970 --> 01:10:34,020 giving me accurate information too so so 1921 01:10:39,709 --> 01:10:37,980 you know so I'm also seeing we're seeing 1922 01:10:41,870 --> 01:10:39,719 Trends in obviously Ontario because I'm 1923 01:10:43,550 --> 01:10:41,880 from Ontario so that's where my highest 1924 01:10:45,890 --> 01:10:43,560 marketing was coming from because it is 1925 01:10:46,669 --> 01:10:45,900 a business you got to market right so 1926 01:10:48,229 --> 01:10:46,679 there are there are certain 1927 01:10:50,209 --> 01:10:48,239 characteristics in there but that's why 1928 01:10:52,250 --> 01:10:50,219 I focus on the things that can't change 1929 01:10:55,669 --> 01:10:52,260 so blood type 1930 01:10:58,370 --> 01:10:55,679 um your skin colon that can't change 1931 01:10:59,689 --> 01:10:58,380 your hair color that can't well it can 1932 01:11:01,430 --> 01:10:59,699 change but like you know you're a 1933 01:11:03,649 --> 01:11:01,440 predominant one your eye color all those 1934 01:11:06,169 --> 01:11:03,659 things that you're kind of born with 1935 01:11:08,450 --> 01:11:06,179 um is there more like more brunettes 1936 01:11:11,209 --> 01:11:08,460 being abducted than blondes or anything 1937 01:11:13,669 --> 01:11:11,219 like that that you've noticed 1938 01:11:16,310 --> 01:11:13,679 um that is in a new study so I don't 1939 01:11:19,610 --> 01:11:16,320 have that data yet the blue eyes blue 1940 01:11:21,470 --> 01:11:19,620 eyes is common there you go right so you 1941 01:11:23,570 --> 01:11:21,480 can associate that fact with other 1942 01:11:26,270 --> 01:11:23,580 things but I mean it's it's just common 1943 01:11:27,890 --> 01:11:26,280 in my study that does I haven't I 1944 01:11:29,810 --> 01:11:27,900 haven't investigated everybody in the 1945 01:11:31,370 --> 01:11:29,820 world you know like it's a you have to 1946 01:11:33,050 --> 01:11:31,380 extrapolate that but I mean it's just 1947 01:11:33,890 --> 01:11:33,060 for me what I'm trying to do when I get 1948 01:11:35,990 --> 01:11:33,900 it's 1949 01:11:37,610 --> 01:11:36,000 I asked this question on on Twitter the 1950 01:11:39,290 --> 01:11:37,620 other day too uh because I like the 1951 01:11:41,649 --> 01:11:39,300 polling option 1952 01:11:44,209 --> 01:11:41,659 um is what's more 1953 01:11:46,070 --> 01:11:44,219 is the data what is it what's more 1954 01:11:47,810 --> 01:11:46,080 important the data itself or what you do 1955 01:11:49,970 --> 01:11:47,820 with the data once you have 1956 01:11:51,709 --> 01:11:49,980 and and so because a lot of people like 1957 01:11:52,970 --> 01:11:51,719 to put stats out a lot of people like to 1958 01:11:54,530 --> 01:11:52,980 do all these things we'll read it and 1959 01:11:56,330 --> 01:11:54,540 write about and all those things like 1960 01:11:57,770 --> 01:11:56,340 rotowski does that you put stats out but 1961 01:12:00,110 --> 01:11:57,780 I mean nobody does anything with it and 1962 01:12:01,970 --> 01:12:00,120 and half the stats are from other 1963 01:12:03,290 --> 01:12:01,980 people's work smooth funds Works might 1964 01:12:05,570 --> 01:12:03,300 work because everybody else is working 1965 01:12:08,169 --> 01:12:05,580 he's the guy on on the TV but at least 1966 01:12:11,149 --> 01:12:08,179 at least it's getting around but I mean 1967 01:12:14,390 --> 01:12:11,159 the nothing's being done with that data 1968 01:12:17,570 --> 01:12:14,400 so when I get this data once I have it 1969 01:12:19,370 --> 01:12:17,580 done it's going to help me build a case 1970 01:12:23,870 --> 01:12:19,380 where 1971 01:12:27,669 --> 01:12:23,880 a I have a sample of people that 1972 01:12:30,830 --> 01:12:27,679 have this criteria that I I believe 1973 01:12:33,290 --> 01:12:30,840 gives the highest probability 1974 01:12:35,990 --> 01:12:33,300 to make some sort of contact whether 1975 01:12:38,090 --> 01:12:36,000 that's extraterrestrial or paranormal if 1976 01:12:40,729 --> 01:12:38,100 I'm going to do a ce5 or if I'm going to 1977 01:12:42,890 --> 01:12:40,739 do a sales I want these people in the 1978 01:12:46,010 --> 01:12:42,900 room because the highest probability of 1979 01:12:48,350 --> 01:12:46,020 them of me making contact and seeing 1980 01:12:50,450 --> 01:12:48,360 that it's likely that these people will 1981 01:12:52,610 --> 01:12:50,460 be able to do that because they don't 1982 01:12:54,350 --> 01:12:52,620 share these characteristics when you do 1983 01:12:56,450 --> 01:12:54,360 these things as a hobby and you go and 1984 01:12:58,189 --> 01:12:56,460 you have fun you got a variance of 1985 01:12:59,930 --> 01:12:58,199 people showing up some are enthusiasts 1986 01:13:01,189 --> 01:12:59,940 some are just curious some are drunk 1987 01:13:03,290 --> 01:13:01,199 because you get drunk when you go to 1988 01:13:05,510 --> 01:13:03,300 those ghost tours who knows but if you 1989 01:13:08,270 --> 01:13:05,520 get an actual controlled sample doing 1990 01:13:10,610 --> 01:13:08,280 these things I hypothesize that we 1991 01:13:13,010 --> 01:13:10,620 should be able to move the object you 1992 01:13:14,330 --> 01:13:13,020 know and if we can't then I narrow down 1993 01:13:15,950 --> 01:13:14,340 my study and try to figure out how to 1994 01:13:18,410 --> 01:13:15,960 get the perfect sample to figure out if 1995 01:13:22,790 --> 01:13:18,420 it's possible because that's the science 1996 01:13:25,370 --> 01:13:22,800 um then with the trauma data what I'm 1997 01:13:28,610 --> 01:13:25,380 going to kind of what I'm hoping to do 1998 01:13:31,130 --> 01:13:28,620 is kind of tackle the disclosure part at 1999 01:13:33,229 --> 01:13:31,140 the appropriate time in a different 2000 01:13:34,370 --> 01:13:33,239 angle I'm not going to be asking for 2001 01:13:36,290 --> 01:13:34,380 confirmation I'm just going to be 2002 01:13:39,110 --> 01:13:36,300 bringing awareness that there are people 2003 01:13:42,169 --> 01:13:39,120 affected mentally by this phenomenon and 2004 01:13:43,010 --> 01:13:42,179 I need resources to take care of these 2005 01:13:45,590 --> 01:13:43,020 people 2006 01:13:47,330 --> 01:13:45,600 no are you sorry Ryan are you planning 2007 01:13:49,850 --> 01:13:47,340 on going to the Canadian government with 2008 01:13:51,669 --> 01:13:49,860 this like to to get some sort of study 2009 01:13:55,430 --> 01:13:51,679 and funding going 2010 01:13:58,610 --> 01:13:55,440 awareness I uh whatever comes out of it 2011 01:14:01,370 --> 01:13:58,620 will come out of it but I mean I think 2012 01:14:02,390 --> 01:14:01,380 I would start with a peaceful peaceful 2013 01:14:04,790 --> 01:14:02,400 protest 2014 01:14:05,950 --> 01:14:04,800 in the sense of having experiences 2015 01:14:10,070 --> 01:14:05,960 together 2016 01:14:14,090 --> 01:14:10,080 where we could basically be comfortable 2017 01:14:16,250 --> 01:14:14,100 and and free and and show that we are 2018 01:14:17,689 --> 01:14:16,260 experienced and we are affected and 2019 01:14:20,270 --> 01:14:17,699 we're ready we've got to create 2020 01:14:23,149 --> 01:14:20,280 awareness to the people getting it on 2021 01:14:25,070 --> 01:14:23,159 mainstream media is is in the science 2022 01:14:26,689 --> 01:14:25,080 thing is very hard but if you get a 2023 01:14:28,070 --> 01:14:26,699 group of people together in one spot 2024 01:14:29,570 --> 01:14:28,080 that all believed that they were 2025 01:14:31,070 --> 01:14:29,580 abducted by aliens and they want 2026 01:14:33,530 --> 01:14:31,080 answered 2027 01:14:34,669 --> 01:14:33,540 right probably going to get answers a 2028 01:14:36,890 --> 01:14:34,679 little quicker 2029 01:14:38,990 --> 01:14:36,900 but that uh 2030 01:14:42,350 --> 01:14:39,000 that's not next year that's the year 2031 01:14:44,090 --> 01:14:42,360 after so I'm building I'm in year 2032 01:14:46,610 --> 01:14:44,100 um what year am I am I'm in the rebuild 2033 01:14:48,649 --> 01:14:46,620 year next year's unity and then contact 2034 01:14:49,729 --> 01:14:48,659 is the final year in my business plan 2035 01:14:53,630 --> 01:14:49,739 but 2036 01:14:56,450 --> 01:14:53,640 so you got it all laid out my man I do I 2037 01:14:59,149 --> 01:14:56,460 had well I had my own psychogenic 2038 01:15:01,070 --> 01:14:59,159 Consciousness experience so that's where 2039 01:15:02,590 --> 01:15:01,080 where I am 2040 01:15:05,149 --> 01:15:02,600 yes 2041 01:15:06,830 --> 01:15:05,159 influence so I have to that's why I kind 2042 01:15:08,510 --> 01:15:06,840 of I believe it to be human I might have 2043 01:15:09,830 --> 01:15:08,520 just picked up a radio signal or 2044 01:15:11,330 --> 01:15:09,840 something like that I don't I don't 2045 01:15:12,550 --> 01:15:11,340 think it's unspecial or anything to that 2046 01:15:16,189 --> 01:15:12,560 effect but 2047 01:15:17,450 --> 01:15:16,199 there is some sort of foresight 2048 01:15:20,510 --> 01:15:17,460 um 2049 01:15:22,310 --> 01:15:20,520 that I seem to be 2050 01:15:24,830 --> 01:15:22,320 that I seem to feel 2051 01:15:28,070 --> 01:15:24,840 and whenever I I pay attention to that 2052 01:15:30,590 --> 01:15:28,080 feeling and I work in that direction 2053 01:15:31,970 --> 01:15:30,600 everything is positive so that's where 2054 01:15:34,370 --> 01:15:31,980 the energy works 2055 01:15:36,229 --> 01:15:34,380 so there is some direction 2056 01:15:37,310 --> 01:15:36,239 um towards a need for this I just don't 2057 01:15:39,290 --> 01:15:37,320 know when 2058 01:15:41,330 --> 01:15:39,300 and is this all discovered for you Ryan 2059 01:15:43,250 --> 01:15:41,340 like it's through investigations through 2060 01:15:44,270 --> 01:15:43,260 talking to people like this was all 2061 01:15:46,550 --> 01:15:44,280 discovered 2062 01:15:47,930 --> 01:15:46,560 along the way like did you start off a 2063 01:15:50,149 --> 01:15:47,940 lot more 2064 01:15:51,590 --> 01:15:50,159 sort of I would say narrow-minded but a 2065 01:15:55,209 --> 01:15:51,600 little bit more narrow on your way of 2066 01:15:59,630 --> 01:15:55,219 thinking and it it expanded yes 2067 01:16:01,850 --> 01:15:59,640 when I started I knew nothing but about 2068 01:16:03,590 --> 01:16:01,860 even ghosts I just thought it was this 2069 01:16:05,030 --> 01:16:03,600 this cool and spooky and Halloween thing 2070 01:16:06,830 --> 01:16:05,040 and then when I started to get into 2071 01:16:08,930 --> 01:16:06,840 ufology and the nuts and Bolton science 2072 01:16:10,790 --> 01:16:08,940 and realizing that it's just a bunch of 2073 01:16:12,470 --> 01:16:10,800 ugly people doing ugly things I was 2074 01:16:14,090 --> 01:16:12,480 turned off on it but then it was taking 2075 01:16:17,090 --> 01:16:14,100 care of the people 2076 01:16:19,550 --> 01:16:17,100 and then even when I was with mufon and 2077 01:16:21,470 --> 01:16:19,560 they reported abductions and things that 2078 01:16:22,669 --> 01:16:21,480 weren't considered Consciousness just 2079 01:16:23,990 --> 01:16:22,679 things of their mind and all these 2080 01:16:25,850 --> 01:16:24,000 things that move on with trying to wrap 2081 01:16:27,830 --> 01:16:25,860 around and say it was you know with 2082 01:16:29,570 --> 01:16:27,840 stuff they didn't want to touch 2083 01:16:32,270 --> 01:16:29,580 and I started giving more attention to 2084 01:16:33,850 --> 01:16:32,280 the Consciousness part I I felt for the 2085 01:16:35,709 --> 01:16:33,860 people but I didn't really understand 2086 01:16:38,330 --> 01:16:35,719 Consciousness I didn't understand 2087 01:16:40,430 --> 01:16:38,340 Dimensions I didn't understand all these 2088 01:16:42,350 --> 01:16:40,440 things even in masonry some of that 2089 01:16:43,850 --> 01:16:42,360 stuff I had to go to a couple degrees a 2090 01:16:45,169 --> 01:16:43,860 couple times to understand the lectures 2091 01:16:47,209 --> 01:16:45,179 and things like that you don't you don't 2092 01:16:49,070 --> 01:16:47,219 you don't you know that's why they give 2093 01:16:50,510 --> 01:16:49,080 you the book that's why yeah but you 2094 01:16:52,729 --> 01:16:50,520 still you still you know every time you 2095 01:16:54,350 --> 01:16:52,739 do a first degree you're like I forgot 2096 01:16:56,689 --> 01:16:54,360 about that you know and then like you 2097 01:16:59,090 --> 01:16:56,699 know uh and all these other things my 2098 01:17:00,110 --> 01:16:59,100 Heritage is a second degree but 2099 01:17:02,030 --> 01:17:00,120 um 2100 01:17:04,250 --> 01:17:02,040 you know so then I get to this point 2101 01:17:06,890 --> 01:17:04,260 where I'm not understanding what 2102 01:17:08,810 --> 01:17:06,900 consequence is and how do I explain this 2103 01:17:10,669 --> 01:17:08,820 like I'm not a scientist I can't I'm not 2104 01:17:13,310 --> 01:17:10,679 an expert I like I need to understand it 2105 01:17:14,930 --> 01:17:13,320 in such a way that I can at least 2106 01:17:17,149 --> 01:17:14,940 work with the people because the people 2107 01:17:18,770 --> 01:17:17,159 want answers right I'm not and I can't 2108 01:17:20,149 --> 01:17:18,780 explain it because I can't get it and I 2109 01:17:22,070 --> 01:17:20,159 feel like it's got to be wrong or maybe 2110 01:17:24,229 --> 01:17:22,080 I'm silly maybe I'm stupid I can't get 2111 01:17:26,689 --> 01:17:24,239 it but then all of a sudden 2112 01:17:29,630 --> 01:17:26,699 um in this trauma the stress that I had 2113 01:17:30,950 --> 01:17:29,640 where I was didn't belong and move on I 2114 01:17:32,750 --> 01:17:30,960 didn't want to be a part of move on 2115 01:17:35,870 --> 01:17:32,760 anymore but I didn't want to abandon the 2116 01:17:37,490 --> 01:17:35,880 people and I I needed to still help the 2117 01:17:40,070 --> 01:17:37,500 people but didn't know how and I had 2118 01:17:42,410 --> 01:17:40,080 this Vision this dream this idea of this 2119 01:17:45,530 --> 01:17:42,420 map which is on the Tesla website if you 2120 01:17:48,470 --> 01:17:45,540 go to about uh us and click the map 2121 01:17:51,530 --> 01:17:48,480 you'll see this map it's a geometric map 2122 01:17:53,930 --> 01:17:51,540 this was a vision that I had of this map 2123 01:17:56,510 --> 01:17:53,940 and that's what Tesla was built off of 2124 01:17:58,310 --> 01:17:56,520 Tesa was on that but later the expansion 2125 01:18:01,490 --> 01:17:58,320 support Association came and all these 2126 01:18:03,470 --> 01:18:01,500 things and as I I this map that came to 2127 01:18:05,810 --> 01:18:03,480 me from wherever it came from when it 2128 01:18:07,850 --> 01:18:05,820 came from however it came from with no 2129 01:18:10,010 --> 01:18:07,860 instructions every time I reflected on 2130 01:18:12,169 --> 01:18:10,020 it it's got a piece of all these things 2131 01:18:13,910 --> 01:18:12,179 that I've been talking about there's 2132 01:18:15,290 --> 01:18:13,920 symbolism in there there's masonry 2133 01:18:17,090 --> 01:18:15,300 symbolism in there first I thought it 2134 01:18:19,729 --> 01:18:17,100 was my brain putting together all these 2135 01:18:21,709 --> 01:18:19,739 all these rituals but there's there's 2136 01:18:22,790 --> 01:18:21,719 some star in there there's Templars 2137 01:18:25,010 --> 01:18:22,800 there's a whole bunch of things there's 2138 01:18:27,229 --> 01:18:25,020 there's even Flat Earth stuff that's in 2139 01:18:28,669 --> 01:18:27,239 there that there's a whole bunch of uh 2140 01:18:30,830 --> 01:18:28,679 different types of things that I didn't 2141 01:18:33,110 --> 01:18:30,840 know anything about and then I started 2142 01:18:34,490 --> 01:18:33,120 talking to the people and when I started 2143 01:18:36,050 --> 01:18:34,500 talking with people and then I go back 2144 01:18:37,669 --> 01:18:36,060 and look at this map and then all of a 2145 01:18:40,270 --> 01:18:37,679 sudden I'm seeing the map in different 2146 01:18:43,430 --> 01:18:40,280 dimensions so this map although it's 2147 01:18:46,490 --> 01:18:43,440 two-dimensional my wish my prayer 2148 01:18:48,229 --> 01:18:46,500 whatever I was in my dark time that I 2149 01:18:51,709 --> 01:18:48,239 was trying to figure out help me that 2150 01:18:54,890 --> 01:18:51,719 message that I got was a two-dimensional 2151 01:18:57,470 --> 01:18:54,900 map that helped me understand 10 2152 01:18:59,209 --> 01:18:57,480 dimensions in the physical room by 2153 01:19:01,189 --> 01:18:59,219 working with this map 2154 01:19:03,830 --> 01:19:01,199 so like we don't have time to get into 2155 01:19:06,770 --> 01:19:03,840 that but I'm just I'm just saying to to 2156 01:19:09,050 --> 01:19:06,780 your point that it was at that moment 2157 01:19:11,689 --> 01:19:09,060 when I understood 2158 01:19:14,330 --> 01:19:11,699 the possibilities that breaking point 2159 01:19:18,350 --> 01:19:14,340 where like this no this can't be real it 2160 01:19:20,870 --> 01:19:18,360 became this is real it is possible but 2161 01:19:22,729 --> 01:19:20,880 it can't be proven so how do I prove it 2162 01:19:26,390 --> 01:19:22,739 now how do I prove anything that's comes 2163 01:19:28,850 --> 01:19:26,400 from my training if I go to court and I 2164 01:19:30,350 --> 01:19:28,860 need to testify against my evidence but 2165 01:19:31,669 --> 01:19:30,360 if there's a cross-examination and I 2166 01:19:32,870 --> 01:19:31,679 need to send someone to jail I need 2167 01:19:36,169 --> 01:19:32,880 Witnesses 2168 01:19:39,350 --> 01:19:36,179 I need testimony so I'm building a team 2169 01:19:41,450 --> 01:19:39,360 of witnesses with with testimony and I'm 2170 01:19:42,709 --> 01:19:41,460 regulating it because I understand how 2171 01:19:44,930 --> 01:19:42,719 the court system works I don't 2172 01:19:47,870 --> 01:19:44,940 understand the political system but I do 2173 01:19:50,209 --> 01:19:47,880 understand I do know people who do and I 2174 01:19:52,010 --> 01:19:50,219 do know how and I do help give people 2175 01:19:54,350 --> 01:19:52,020 that information so they can write their 2176 01:19:57,830 --> 01:19:54,360 articles and do these things 2177 01:19:59,570 --> 01:19:57,840 um you know so but I do know how to 2178 01:20:02,330 --> 01:19:59,580 handle myself in a courtroom so that's 2179 01:20:04,550 --> 01:20:02,340 kind of how I'm I'm prepping everything 2180 01:20:06,830 --> 01:20:04,560 so that way I'm asking the right 2181 01:20:09,229 --> 01:20:06,840 question at the right time to the right 2182 01:20:11,689 --> 01:20:09,239 people and that is a human rights 2183 01:20:13,850 --> 01:20:11,699 approach because our people 2184 01:20:17,510 --> 01:20:13,860 are the ones that are mentally being 2185 01:20:21,290 --> 01:20:17,520 hijacked or borrowed in their sleep to 2186 01:20:24,169 --> 01:20:21,300 operate these cracks or the medications 2187 01:20:26,510 --> 01:20:24,179 that all of us are prescribed to are too 2188 01:20:28,550 --> 01:20:26,520 high and we need to we need to lower the 2189 01:20:32,030 --> 01:20:28,560 dosage you know like there's something 2190 01:20:34,910 --> 01:20:32,040 going on the phenomenon is real and our 2191 01:20:37,189 --> 01:20:34,920 people are experiencing something yeah 2192 01:20:40,130 --> 01:20:37,199 and there's lots of science and theories 2193 01:20:43,010 --> 01:20:40,140 and understanding but it's just guessing 2194 01:20:46,189 --> 01:20:43,020 they don't have confirmation now either 2195 01:20:48,290 --> 01:20:46,199 but they're it it makes sense it's close 2196 01:20:49,790 --> 01:20:48,300 but then the government 2197 01:20:52,189 --> 01:20:49,800 what do we want from the government the 2198 01:20:54,649 --> 01:20:52,199 government needs to have control so the 2199 01:20:57,470 --> 01:20:54,659 government will not tell us it exists 2200 01:21:00,410 --> 01:20:57,480 unless they have control it needs to be 2201 01:21:02,570 --> 01:21:00,420 regulated marijuana wasn't legalized in 2202 01:21:05,570 --> 01:21:02,580 Canada until they were able to regulate 2203 01:21:08,590 --> 01:21:05,580 it in tax good for many many years so 2204 01:21:11,149 --> 01:21:08,600 they're going to tax abductions now 2205 01:21:13,189 --> 01:21:11,159 you've had 14 this year so yeah 2206 01:21:15,050 --> 01:21:13,199 abduction tax yeah it becomes 2207 01:21:18,110 --> 01:21:15,060 entertainment like Skinwalker Ranch but 2208 01:21:20,149 --> 01:21:18,120 they uh yeah maybe they do good work on 2209 01:21:21,950 --> 01:21:20,159 that too that's that's that is a good 2210 01:21:24,229 --> 01:21:21,960 show in terms of that's a hard show like 2211 01:21:26,450 --> 01:21:24,239 they actually do science and they kind 2212 01:21:28,010 --> 01:21:26,460 of make it entertaining so I you know 2213 01:21:30,010 --> 01:21:28,020 but that's a challenge he gets old 2214 01:21:31,630 --> 01:21:30,020 Brandon gets a lot of flat on that 2215 01:21:34,370 --> 01:21:31,640 yeah 2216 01:21:36,350 --> 01:21:34,380 the skin walk the ranch is a is this 2217 01:21:37,910 --> 01:21:36,360 it's its own thing and like we've 2218 01:21:40,370 --> 01:21:37,920 discovered by talking with George Knapp 2219 01:21:43,669 --> 01:21:40,380 uh and even Coleman Kelleher that uh 2220 01:21:46,010 --> 01:21:43,679 James Winters in as well yeah exactly 2221 01:21:47,450 --> 01:21:46,020 those guys they're legit and they're 2222 01:21:50,209 --> 01:21:47,460 saying that there's something there that 2223 01:21:51,590 --> 01:21:50,219 something weird is going on and it's you 2224 01:21:52,970 --> 01:21:51,600 know they can actually study it now 2225 01:21:55,189 --> 01:21:52,980 they've got scientists there doing 2226 01:21:57,470 --> 01:21:55,199 actual work and studying this phenomenon 2227 01:21:59,450 --> 01:21:57,480 and and you got a media company that's 2228 01:22:01,850 --> 01:21:59,460 paying them to do that work so it could 2229 01:22:04,130 --> 01:22:01,860 be broadcast and entertaining in America 2230 01:22:05,570 --> 01:22:04,140 so like you can you can there's a 2231 01:22:07,669 --> 01:22:05,580 business side of it and if you can 2232 01:22:08,930 --> 01:22:07,679 accept that it makes sense and then 2233 01:22:10,610 --> 01:22:08,940 there's the science side of that there's 2234 01:22:12,530 --> 01:22:10,620 a lot of people putting effort in 2235 01:22:14,689 --> 01:22:12,540 citizen science citizen journalism 2236 01:22:16,430 --> 01:22:14,699 citizen all these other things 2237 01:22:19,430 --> 01:22:16,440 eventually we're going to figure it out 2238 01:22:22,550 --> 01:22:19,440 and if we figure it out you know 2239 01:22:24,229 --> 01:22:22,560 there goes our jobs well well really 2240 01:22:26,390 --> 01:22:24,239 that's why I'm focusing on the people is 2241 01:22:28,189 --> 01:22:26,400 what do you do next focus on the future 2242 01:22:29,270 --> 01:22:28,199 right someone's going to figure it out I 2243 01:22:30,950 --> 01:22:29,280 mean someone doesn't figure it out 2244 01:22:33,950 --> 01:22:30,960 someone's gonna debunk it someone's 2245 01:22:35,870 --> 01:22:33,960 gonna you know uh someone is going to 2246 01:22:40,189 --> 01:22:35,880 give you both sides of that when you're 2247 01:22:43,610 --> 01:22:42,110 um that's what matters because I 2248 01:22:45,410 --> 01:22:43,620 wouldn't be here if these people didn't 2249 01:22:47,630 --> 01:22:45,420 report to me if these people didn't 2250 01:22:49,610 --> 01:22:47,640 spend time just as much time with me as 2251 01:22:52,310 --> 01:22:49,620 I spent with them I wouldn't have any 2252 01:22:54,770 --> 01:22:52,320 information to talk about to theorize to 2253 01:22:58,430 --> 01:22:54,780 hypothesize again and still could be 2254 01:23:01,130 --> 01:22:58,440 wrong but I mean I'm I'm uh I'm close 2255 01:23:02,570 --> 01:23:01,140 with some group but the groups that I'm 2256 01:23:05,570 --> 01:23:02,580 close with 2257 01:23:06,910 --> 01:23:05,580 um are not the UFO Twitter people who 2258 01:23:09,350 --> 01:23:06,920 are you know 2259 01:23:12,070 --> 01:23:09,360 still right in their own tackling the 2260 01:23:14,450 --> 01:23:12,080 same beast from a different side 2261 01:23:16,130 --> 01:23:14,460 but I'd like to see that effort that 2262 01:23:17,930 --> 01:23:16,140 same effort focused on the people but 2263 01:23:21,350 --> 01:23:17,940 there's a need for that too yeah right 2264 01:23:23,390 --> 01:23:21,360 it's all it's it's no good or there's no 2265 01:23:26,630 --> 01:23:23,400 bad investigations in towards the 2266 01:23:28,729 --> 01:23:26,640 subject whether it's ufology or or any 2267 01:23:32,330 --> 01:23:28,739 science on anything 2268 01:23:35,030 --> 01:23:32,340 we have a tremendous amount of people 2269 01:23:37,669 --> 01:23:35,040 that are dedicating their time and 2270 01:23:39,890 --> 01:23:37,679 resources yourselves included to keep 2271 01:23:41,750 --> 01:23:39,900 the narrative going and that needs to be 2272 01:23:43,729 --> 01:23:41,760 recognized 2273 01:23:46,490 --> 01:23:43,739 um as the with the experiential support 2274 01:23:48,350 --> 01:23:46,500 Association too we also help 2275 01:23:49,910 --> 01:23:48,360 um you know we we sell memberships and 2276 01:23:51,410 --> 01:23:49,920 things like that too but we also help 2277 01:23:53,510 --> 01:23:51,420 try to 2278 01:23:55,450 --> 01:23:53,520 kind of take good programs and make them 2279 01:23:58,070 --> 01:23:55,460 better there's another Masonic kind of 2280 01:24:00,290 --> 01:23:58,080 intuition right like trying to also 2281 01:24:03,709 --> 01:24:00,300 build this this 2282 01:24:06,110 --> 01:24:03,719 um this network where 2283 01:24:08,870 --> 01:24:06,120 it's not just Canadian but it's American 2284 01:24:11,270 --> 01:24:08,880 too so I'm focusing on Canada I'm doing 2285 01:24:13,130 --> 01:24:11,280 Canadian topics I could be in the U.S 2286 01:24:14,990 --> 01:24:13,140 game as well 2287 01:24:17,450 --> 01:24:15,000 but what about Canada you know these are 2288 01:24:20,510 --> 01:24:17,460 our people right so and I kind of feel 2289 01:24:22,070 --> 01:24:20,520 that if we have this network of 2290 01:24:23,750 --> 01:24:22,080 different countries that come together 2291 01:24:25,970 --> 01:24:23,760 on the citizen side and we can compare 2292 01:24:29,290 --> 01:24:25,980 notes we can come to these answers too 2293 01:24:32,270 --> 01:24:29,300 like there's we got to work together but 2294 01:24:35,450 --> 01:24:32,280 we're all like like rutowsky's doing his 2295 01:24:38,750 --> 01:24:35,460 thing Cameron's doing his thing uh Otis 2296 01:24:41,270 --> 01:24:38,760 is the journalist he's doing his thing 2297 01:24:43,189 --> 01:24:41,280 um but in the end we're all we're all 2298 01:24:45,410 --> 01:24:43,199 working on that same article we're all 2299 01:24:48,770 --> 01:24:45,420 uh we're all pushing the same thing to 2300 01:24:51,530 --> 01:24:48,780 get an answer and if Transport Canada is 2301 01:24:53,390 --> 01:24:51,540 going to say nothing then I suspect 2302 01:24:56,570 --> 01:24:53,400 house Commons is also going to say 2303 01:24:58,910 --> 01:24:56,580 nothing and then for me that's it 2304 01:25:00,590 --> 01:24:58,920 but there's going to still this UFO 2305 01:25:03,050 --> 01:25:00,600 Twitter Community is not going to accept 2306 01:25:06,770 --> 01:25:03,060 that there's no belief you still have to 2307 01:25:08,390 --> 01:25:06,780 trust the government with something 2308 01:25:10,310 --> 01:25:08,400 all right I'll kind of leave it on that 2309 01:25:12,709 --> 01:25:10,320 in terms of like 2310 01:25:14,570 --> 01:25:12,719 sure the government could lie and the 2311 01:25:16,910 --> 01:25:14,580 government has lied and the government's 2312 01:25:18,830 --> 01:25:16,920 made mistakes and can make mistakes but 2313 01:25:19,970 --> 01:25:18,840 can you what can we trust the government 2314 01:25:22,669 --> 01:25:19,980 with 2315 01:25:24,890 --> 01:25:22,679 so so if these extraterrestrials exist 2316 01:25:27,649 --> 01:25:24,900 or if these crafts exist we can trust 2317 01:25:30,169 --> 01:25:27,659 that they've been able to to keep it 2318 01:25:32,209 --> 01:25:30,179 under wraps and protect us from it we 2319 01:25:35,030 --> 01:25:32,219 can trust that every time our aircrafts 2320 01:25:36,590 --> 01:25:35,040 in Canada come across them and they're 2321 01:25:39,590 --> 01:25:36,600 not threatened by them they're not 2322 01:25:40,850 --> 01:25:39,600 getting killed by them we're not being 2323 01:25:41,630 --> 01:25:40,860 uh you know 2324 01:25:44,390 --> 01:25:41,640 um 2325 01:25:46,070 --> 01:25:44,400 and I'm blown up by them so something is 2326 01:25:47,870 --> 01:25:46,080 going on they're aware of it so we can 2327 01:25:49,729 --> 01:25:47,880 trust and even though we don't know the 2328 01:25:52,070 --> 01:25:49,739 source of it we can trust that it's 2329 01:25:53,870 --> 01:25:52,080 handled and we can trust that the 2330 01:25:56,450 --> 01:25:53,880 government is protecting us because 2331 01:25:57,890 --> 01:25:56,460 that's their job and we don't need to 2332 01:26:00,290 --> 01:25:57,900 know everything 2333 01:26:02,750 --> 01:26:00,300 on how everything works we want to know 2334 01:26:04,370 --> 01:26:02,760 because we just are trying to understand 2335 01:26:05,270 --> 01:26:04,380 why we are feeling the way that we're 2336 01:26:07,550 --> 01:26:05,280 feeling 2337 01:26:09,590 --> 01:26:07,560 and if we work more on ourselves and and 2338 01:26:12,290 --> 01:26:09,600 we and we focus on the things that bug 2339 01:26:14,689 --> 01:26:12,300 us and spread more love than and then 2340 01:26:16,010 --> 01:26:14,699 negative energy then we'll stop we don't 2341 01:26:18,350 --> 01:26:16,020 need to ask those questions anymore 2342 01:26:22,010 --> 01:26:18,360 we're happy and then we just be and then 2343 01:26:24,770 --> 01:26:22,020 we evolve so I trust that that no matter 2344 01:26:26,149 --> 01:26:24,780 what side where we get this affirmation 2345 01:26:29,330 --> 01:26:26,159 from the government whether they cover 2346 01:26:31,430 --> 01:26:29,340 it up we're going to cover it up I mean 2347 01:26:34,610 --> 01:26:31,440 um close it so that we know more 2348 01:26:37,010 --> 01:26:34,620 information can come out 2349 01:26:39,590 --> 01:26:37,020 um or they tell us a little bit it's 2350 01:26:42,110 --> 01:26:39,600 it's taken in consideration for the 2351 01:26:45,050 --> 01:26:42,120 betterment of the entire world 2352 01:26:47,750 --> 01:26:45,060 and majority of the people that need 2353 01:26:49,490 --> 01:26:47,760 that message 2354 01:26:51,530 --> 01:26:49,500 um will hear it 2355 01:26:53,870 --> 01:26:51,540 and if they decide not to tell us 2356 01:26:56,870 --> 01:26:53,880 anything then that could also be the 2357 01:26:58,810 --> 01:26:56,880 truth but if you believe it to be them 2358 01:27:03,050 --> 01:26:58,820 still covering it up 2359 01:27:05,149 --> 01:27:03,060 then trust that majority of the world is 2360 01:27:07,010 --> 01:27:05,159 not ready to handle it 2361 01:27:10,490 --> 01:27:07,020 and help me 2362 01:27:11,930 --> 01:27:10,500 and others get the world ready to accept 2363 01:27:15,169 --> 01:27:11,940 it in the future 2364 01:27:16,790 --> 01:27:15,179 right and we we are trying hard on this 2365 01:27:18,950 --> 01:27:16,800 podcast trying to have people like 2366 01:27:22,189 --> 01:27:18,960 yourselves that are talking about this 2367 01:27:24,110 --> 01:27:22,199 that are helping people out 2368 01:27:26,090 --> 01:27:24,120 um again uh Louis do you have any 2369 01:27:28,370 --> 01:27:26,100 questions for our guests before we go I 2370 01:27:30,950 --> 01:27:28,380 will just extend a very warm thanks to 2371 01:27:33,290 --> 01:27:30,960 uh Ryan Stacy it's nice to have a big 2372 01:27:35,090 --> 01:27:33,300 mind on this type of thing and sort of 2373 01:27:37,729 --> 01:27:35,100 be that middle ground between the 2374 01:27:40,430 --> 01:27:37,739 polarized ufologists mysticism 2375 01:27:42,770 --> 01:27:40,440 paranormal you know there is they all 2376 01:27:44,810 --> 01:27:42,780 intersect we're like three circles but 2377 01:27:47,149 --> 01:27:44,820 there's an overlap in between each of 2378 01:27:49,490 --> 01:27:47,159 those tri-quadrant sort of things right 2379 01:27:51,050 --> 01:27:49,500 so and these communities have challenges 2380 01:27:53,810 --> 01:27:51,060 working with each other for sure I 2381 01:27:57,950 --> 01:27:53,820 understand those challenges 2382 01:28:00,590 --> 01:27:57,960 um like the Flat Earth movement those 2383 01:28:03,229 --> 01:28:00,600 people drive a lot of people crazy 2384 01:28:04,790 --> 01:28:03,239 because of the the idea the possibility 2385 01:28:06,350 --> 01:28:04,800 and there's a lot of evidence out there 2386 01:28:08,030 --> 01:28:06,360 that we can't prove one way or another 2387 01:28:09,770 --> 01:28:08,040 but it's a different belief and it's 2388 01:28:11,570 --> 01:28:09,780 just as equal 2389 01:28:13,550 --> 01:28:11,580 um as us fighting this other topic so if 2390 01:28:15,410 --> 01:28:13,560 you look at them as human beings they're 2391 01:28:17,570 --> 01:28:15,420 fighting for a similar cause but they 2392 01:28:18,709 --> 01:28:17,580 can't talk to each other and what I 2393 01:28:20,810 --> 01:28:18,719 understand we're talking to that 2394 01:28:22,250 --> 01:28:20,820 Community is I'll tell you that I learn 2395 01:28:25,910 --> 01:28:22,260 more about 2396 01:28:27,830 --> 01:28:25,920 how possible and probable that the 2397 01:28:30,050 --> 01:28:27,840 original moon landing might have been a 2398 01:28:32,149 --> 01:28:30,060 hoax not from a ufologist but from 2399 01:28:34,129 --> 01:28:32,159 someone who who believes the Earth is 2400 01:28:37,209 --> 01:28:34,139 flat because they're also trying to 2401 01:28:40,490 --> 01:28:37,219 prove that NASA is lying so that common 2402 01:28:42,530 --> 01:28:40,500 effort helps kind of narrow down where 2403 01:28:45,709 --> 01:28:42,540 to get the app get the information from 2404 01:28:47,090 --> 01:28:45,719 so not only do I have to understand how 2405 01:28:49,850 --> 01:28:47,100 all this stuff works I need to 2406 01:28:54,050 --> 01:28:49,860 understand what all these communities 2407 01:28:56,270 --> 01:28:54,060 are fighting for and understand whether 2408 01:28:58,129 --> 01:28:56,280 or not the effort 2409 01:29:01,129 --> 01:28:58,139 you know what it all comes down to what 2410 01:29:03,350 --> 01:29:01,139 it all comes down to is that belief 2411 01:29:06,709 --> 01:29:03,360 that what we're told and what we're 2412 01:29:08,810 --> 01:29:06,719 experiencing doesn't match up 2413 01:29:10,310 --> 01:29:08,820 and we need to understand why what we 2414 01:29:12,050 --> 01:29:10,320 see and what we feel and what we're 2415 01:29:14,870 --> 01:29:12,060 understanding isn't what we're told 2416 01:29:16,910 --> 01:29:14,880 because we're smart enough to know that 2417 01:29:18,290 --> 01:29:16,920 you know 2418 01:29:20,090 --> 01:29:18,300 things don't make sense so I'm just 2419 01:29:22,070 --> 01:29:20,100 talking in general terms 2420 01:29:23,570 --> 01:29:22,080 so it's it's also connecting the 2421 01:29:25,250 --> 01:29:23,580 academic communities and all these other 2422 01:29:28,129 --> 01:29:25,260 different factions to kind of reprogram 2423 01:29:31,129 --> 01:29:28,139 their thoughts on how 2424 01:29:32,689 --> 01:29:31,139 everyone is Val everyone like all all 2425 01:29:33,950 --> 01:29:32,699 men on Deck they're every man on that 2426 01:29:36,169 --> 01:29:33,960 kind of scenario 2427 01:29:39,050 --> 01:29:36,179 and we need that it's a global effort at 2428 01:29:41,870 --> 01:29:39,060 this point to uh to get this solved uh 2429 01:29:43,370 --> 01:29:41,880 Ryan where can uh people find uh we've 2430 01:29:44,870 --> 01:29:43,380 already talked about the website but 2431 01:29:46,729 --> 01:29:44,880 let's say it again uh where can people 2432 01:29:48,649 --> 01:29:46,739 find you in your work and if somebody is 2433 01:29:50,470 --> 01:29:48,659 an experiencer where can they go 2434 01:29:52,189 --> 01:29:50,480 yeah so 2435 01:29:54,530 --> 01:29:52,199 experienceupport.org is the main site 2436 01:29:58,970 --> 01:29:54,540 you can find everything there 2437 01:30:01,070 --> 01:29:58,980 um Facebook uh search Ryan Stacy on that 2438 01:30:02,990 --> 01:30:01,080 um and Twitter I do have a podcast 2439 01:30:06,350 --> 01:30:03,000 called beyond the tinfoil hat which is 2440 01:30:08,270 --> 01:30:06,360 every Thursday at 8pm eastern time and I 2441 01:30:11,629 --> 01:30:08,280 uh I just do live interviews with people 2442 01:30:13,310 --> 01:30:11,639 off the cuff and kind of get into it 2443 01:30:15,550 --> 01:30:13,320 um from that I also do another program 2444 01:30:19,310 --> 01:30:15,560 called Uncharted Case Files every Monday 2445 01:30:21,050 --> 01:30:19,320 at 3 P.M uh eastern time where I talk 2446 01:30:23,629 --> 01:30:21,060 about the latest Declassified document 2447 01:30:26,149 --> 01:30:23,639 that I've uh I've found 2448 01:30:27,530 --> 01:30:26,159 um what I think uh it means add it to 2449 01:30:29,750 --> 01:30:27,540 the timeline and all these other things 2450 01:30:30,649 --> 01:30:29,760 and 2451 01:30:32,149 --> 01:30:30,659 um 2452 01:30:34,189 --> 01:30:32,159 yeah I think that's pretty well it 2453 01:30:36,530 --> 01:30:34,199 everything else is there perfect Ryan 2454 01:30:38,330 --> 01:30:36,540 Stacy thank you so much for your uh your 2455 01:30:40,370 --> 01:30:38,340 time and your knowledge and for uh 2456 01:30:43,010 --> 01:30:40,380 coming on the podcast today we really do 2457 01:30:44,330 --> 01:30:43,020 appreciate it and uh let's not uh make 2458 01:30:45,830 --> 01:30:44,340 this you know the only second time 2459 01:30:51,950 --> 01:30:45,840 you're on let's have you on again okay